Universal DNA Database

[Alien5]

coz hoo the feck would want your DNA

every fucking body.

[Mr JP Fugley]

If the government wants to hold records of my DNA, fingerprints, retinal scans and anything else which can identify me I have no problem with it. Why would I.

I think it's a genuinely small price to pay to make it easier to identify rapists, paedophiles, murderers and students.

On that point, the argument exists that if everyone who fancied himself a decent person, submitted their DNA voluntarily, then it would narrow down investigations and so assist the proceedings without the need for a universal database.

Again, no problem with that.

However I would make it compulsory and would also take samples from new-borns to save any hassle. Tho' that might not work as they wouldn't be registered yet.

So I might have to make the registration of birth thing happen at birth or as soon as reasonably practicable thereafter.

Having the Registrar there might not be entirely practical. Wouldn't want to invade anyone's privacy or out.

[Alien5]

I participate in the odd activity that isn't seen as strictly legal and I may leave some DNA behind . So with this proposed new system, I would worry that every time I lit up a spliff (Or chucked a roach away) someone would arrest the fuck out of me. Or that they could if they felt like it.

I don't want to go in to any more detail.

stoners like you should be the first to get DNA tested, anally.

[Hairbautt]

I'd give my DNA if she just asked.

[Something Else]

I'd get arrested for something I don't agree is a crime.

[Mr JP Fugley]

I'd get arrested for something I don't agree is a crime.

So

[Alien5]

anyway a couple of roaches ain't exactly crime of the century, The cops wouldn't search DNA to find the dope user, thats a waste of money and time.

possession of cannabis is nothing.

but if you re-offend they start getting more abusive/serious.

[chalice]

On that point, the argument exists that if everyone who fancied himself a decent person, submitted their DNA voluntarily, then it would narrow down investigations and so assist the proceedings without the need for a universal database.

Again, no problem with that.

However I would make it compulsory and would also take samples from new-borns to save any hassle. Tho' that might not work as they wouldn't be registered yet.

So I might have to make the registration of birth thing happen at birth or as soon as reasonably practicable thereafter.

Having the Registrar there might not be entirely practical. Wouldn't want to invade any one's privacy or out.

I can reasonably accept that stance, but I can't get over the essential 'branding' which it inevitability implies.

I can accept that monsters exist but I don't think I should prove that I'm not one of them.

[Mr JP Fugley]

Again, no problem with that.

However I would make it compulsory and would also take samples from new-borns to save any hassle. Tho' that might not work as they wouldn't be registered yet.

So I might have to make the registration of birth thing happen at birth or as soon as reasonably practicable thereafter.

Having the Registrar there might not be entirely practical. Wouldn't want to invade any one's privacy or out.

I can reasonably accept that stance, but I can't get over the essential 'branding' which it inevitability implies.

I can accept that monsters exist but I don't think I should prove that I'm not one of them.

How is it asking you to prove that. I can't even begin to understand that argument.

[Alien5]

i think chalice disagrees with compulsory DNA testing for non criminals.