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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley View Post
    Does it go back to Ellis Island at all.

    Certainly in the West of Scotland the ghettos were deliberately created. Miners from Ireland would be put in a village with either other Catholics or Protestants.

    If your people were similarly divided, by country of origin one could see how the whole prefixed national identity would evolve.

    And also the Irish and the Italians are particularly proud of their national identities, one could also see how a mere handful of generations would not remove that.
    Congratulations; you've just rationalized your nit-pick.

    Actually, my take is picking nits as well:

    For the most part, while the entire Ellis Island episode and the attendant (other-than-black) racism is a lesson in overcoming differences.

    The irony was that when the Afro-American reference became de rigueur, blacks were greeted with responses intended to communicate the easy-to-point-out aspect of it's redundance (as in, "yes, we can see that you are from Africa"), which was at once cruel and easy to shrug off.

    Unfortunate, yet true, and this current phenomenon springs from a misguided urge to compensate and accomodate - the fact it is perpetuated by liberalism is kind of a dirty secret.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    I bet you can remember when this was all fields
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proper Bo View Post
    I bet you can remember when this was all fields
    edit: @jp
    Yup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proper Bo View Post
    I bet you can remember when this was all fields
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    :earl::absolutely:

    The house I was brought up in was right beside the country and I could walk out the front door and walk into fields and stuff. There's loads of houses there now and I bemoan the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley View Post
    Does it go back to Ellis Island at all.

    Certainly in the West of Scotland the ghettos were deliberately created. Miners from Ireland would be put in a village with either other Catholics or Protestants.

    If your people were similarly divided, by country of origin one could see how the whole prefixed national identity would evolve.

    And also the Irish and the Italians are particularly proud of their national identities, one could also see how a mere handful of generations would not remove that.
    Congratulations; you've just rationalized your nit-pick.

    Actually, my take is picking nits as well:

    For the most part, while the entire Ellis Island episode and the attendant (other-than-black) racism is a lesson in overcoming differences.

    The irony was that when the Afro-American reference became de rigueur, blacks were greeted with responses intended to communicate the easy-to-point-out aspect of it's redundance (as in, "yes, we can see that you are from Africa"), which was at once cruel and easy to shrug off.

    Unfortunate, yet true, and this current phenomenon springs from a misguided urge to compensate and accomodate - the fact it is perpetuated by liberalism is kind of a dirty secret.
    I'm taking that as a yes.
    "there is nothing misogynistic about anything, stop trippin.
    i type this way because im black and from nyc chill son "

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    i didn't believe these "field" things existed til the wench made me walk the dog in one.
    there was a bull there too. true story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proper Bo View Post
    i didn't believe these "field" things existed til the wench made me walk the dog in one.
    there was a bull there too. true story.
    I gambolled and frollicked thro' the fields for most of my early childhood. We made our own fun in those days but.

    Then it was jumpers for goalposts, in the best traditions.
    "there is nothing misogynistic about anything, stop trippin.
    i type this way because im black and from nyc chill son "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Proper Bo View Post
    i didn't believe these "field" things existed til the wench made me walk the dog in one.
    there was a bull there too. true story.
    I gambolled and frollicked thro' the fields for most of my early childhood. We made our own fun in those days but.

    Then it was jumpers for goalposts, in the best traditions.
    Nowt wrong with bin bags for goalposts

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    Half a brick as a ball too.

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    It's still all fields around here, like.

    I think I'm a relic from JP's passed.
    I plan on beating him to death with his kids. I'll use them as a bludgeon on his face. -

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