p2p is for is the kiddie cup for leechers ;)

[necromantic]

Hmm, you'll have to let me in on your secrets for getting 1080p encodes to play in Rar Player/Newsgroup client. Impressive

[saulin]

Hmm, you'll have to let me in on your secrets for getting 1080p encodes to play in Rar Player/Newsgroup client. Impressive

???

The news client automatically verifies archieves and extracts them for you. What are you talking about?

[necromantic]

Hmm, you'll have to let me in on your secrets for getting 1080p encodes to play in Rar Player/Newsgroup client. Impressive

???

The news client automatically verifies archieves and extracts them for you. What are you talking about?

same here i don't have to unrar, just use Rar Player to play dem movies

Here's what I'm talking about. Unraring the files takes time + hdd space (and we're not even talking about the extra DL time + space of the par2 files + the time needed to repair the archives)
When I dl a file from torrents it's ready to view IMMEDIATELY using any player I want.

[saulin]

Here's what I'm talking about. Unraring the files takes time + hdd space (and we're not even talking about the extra DL time + space of the par2 files + the time needed to repair the archives)
When I dl a file from torrents it's ready to view IMMEDIATELY using any player I want.

I think you are confused. The realeases on torrent sites and usenet are the exact same releases haha. They come from the same sources.

How is it different playing content downloaded from torrents than content downloaded from usenet?

BTW having par files is a huge advantage over torrents as well since if you find a very old post with some files that are not complete if you can still get the par files then you can repair the archieve . If a file is corrupt in a torrent download, you have to get the damage file from somewhere else. Oh yeah a tip for you. You only need to get the par file that is a few KB in size to verify all the files, the other par files are used when data is damaged

Oh yeah another awesome feature found on news servers using the web interface for example www.easynews.com. You can download movies within rar files so is already uncompressed when you download it It will also check all the rars to tell you if there are any errors or incomplete before you download. That way you know if you might need par files. You can preview movies and music as well.

[necromantic]

Here's what I'm talking about. Unraring the files takes time + hdd space (and we're not even talking about the extra DL time + space of the par2 files + the time needed to repair the archives)
When I dl a file from torrents it's ready to view IMMEDIATELY using any player I want.

I think you are confused. The realeases on torrent sites and usenet are the exact same releases haha. They come from the same sources.

Oh you are sooo wrong. Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. Music encodes and HD encodes being done by dedicated members on sites such as Waffles, What, HDBits are vastly superior to scene releases. Yes scene releases can be downloaded through bittorrent, but we have much more as well.

How is it different playing content downloaded from torrents than content downloaded from usenet?

Newsgroups = archived, Bittorrent = not archived (some yes, but not all)

BTW having par files is a huge advantage over torrents as well since if you find a very old post with some files that are not complete if you can still get the par files then you can repair the archieve .

This is a newsgroup problem, not a bittorrent problem. A solution to a major flaw in your form of filesharing hardly qualifies as an advantage.

If a file is corrupt in a torrent download, you have to get the damage file from somewhere else.

Corrupt files in bittorrent? You've been on public trackers again haven't you.

Oh yeah a tip for you. You only need to get the par file that is a few KB in size to verify all the files, the other par files are used when data is damaged

Good tip, but you'll still need to download them since your newsgroup download will almost certainly have corruption

Don't get me wrong Saulin, Newsgroups are great. I use them both. But the fact still remains that torrents wear the crown.

[saulin]

Oh you are sooo wrong. Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. Music encodes and HD encodes being done by dedicated members on sites such as Waffles, What, HDBits are vastly superior to scene releases. Yes scene releases can be downloaded through bittorrent, but we have much more as well.

Just like torrent sites have unique releases so do News Groups. In fact the amount of data in newsgroups is simply just too much. You gotta watch what you say cause newgroups have more data than torrents sites.

Newsgroups = archived, Bittorrent = not archived (some yes, but not all)

Again most things on torrent sites are the same scene releases and sure there are some dedicated trackers to espesific things but again Newgroups have pretty much everything you can think of. Yes they have groups for loseless music as and yes they take requests and yes they have dedicated HD content groups. Man are you sure you know what you are talking about?

For example Roms and a lot of data related to emulation was being hosted on Usenet and now trackers like UG and Pleasuredome host a lot of it. But a lot of it were hosted on Usenet and a lot of it came from usenet. All the Mame files which equals to huge amounts of data was moslty only found on usenet. I don't think there is a place that has more porn than usenet. You will find all kinds of stuff in usenet because is not only for piracy. People use binary groups to upload many files of many interests. There are I don't know over 100,000 groups out there and many thousands are binary groups.

This is a newsgroup problem, not a bittorrent problem. A solution to a major flaw in your form of filesharing hardly qualifies as an advantage.

Corrupt files in bittorrent? You've been on public trackers again haven't you.


Haha is not the first time I see something like. Oh file blah won't extract. It says is corrupt in torrents comments. And with today's internet connections and programs used to upload chances of getting corrupt uploads are not that good and for your info pars were introduced to compensate poor retention in newsgroups by lots of ISPs not because of corrupt uploads.

Good tip, but you'll still need to download them since your newsgroup download will almost certainly have corruption

Worng. Maybe if you rely on on your ISP crappy news service.

[Sonnentier]

Haha is not the first time I see something like. Oh file blah won't extract. It says is corrupt in torrents comments. And with today's internet connections and programs used to upload chances of getting corrupt uploads are not that good [..]

I'm not completely sure what you mean, but bittorrent checks the parts of a file and if they hashfail they get downloaded again. In the end you have a clean file, it should not get corrupted. If it was corrupted before the first transfer, this is not torrent's fault. What we mean is that with bittorrent we don't need Par files because there is no retention or corruption problem, if some data is received corrupted you just get it again..

[djork]

saulin -- thank you backing up newsgroups mate obviously the people who constantly talk shit about usenet have never used it .. "pay2leech" my ass .. you won't be saying that when you have premium usenet access ~_~

[Sonnentier]

well usenet isn't exactly pay2leech but if you don't have binary axx you are out of it

[saulin]

I'm not completely sure what you mean, but bittorrent checks the parts of a file and if they hashfail they get downloaded again. In the end you have a clean file, it should not get corrupted. If it was corrupted before the first transfer, this is not torrent's fault. What we mean is that with bittorrent we don't need Par files because there is no retention or corruption problem, if some data is received corrupted you just get it again..

Yes you are right but if the original uploader has a file that failed crc or is imcomplete or damaged then everyone will get the same results. And yes the par files were put in place because of retention. It saved people from having to download a whole file again. They just needed to download a par file and that can fix many incomplete files. Incomplete files are seen when the servers are hitting the retention limit.

And yes a lot of people that talk trash about usenet have not had premium access most likely and had never tried Easynews and Giganews