Breaking Bad

[IdolEyes787]

No, but when you take certain expressions literally he shows up and makes you shudder for a moment.

I'm just glad you didn't threaten that heads were gonna roll.

[KFlint]

Spoiler: Show

Someone just pointed to me the fact that Walter picks an habit from every person he killed. Crazy 8 was cutting his bread crusts, Gus was driving a volvo, Mike was drinking scotch on the rocks etc...

And then, Walt places his bacon at Denny's on his 52th birthday, something Skyler used to do.... So....

Didn't notice any of that before, am I the only one...

[wazza100]

good episode loved it

[chalice]

I've never seen an episode of Breaking Bad or for that matter The Sopranos so basically according to critics I inhabit some vast cultural wasteland.
Anyway hopefully the next "best show of the last ten years" will feature actual good guys instead of murderous thugs and so I will feel more inclined to watch it.

Some cute puppies in lead roles wouldn't hurt either.

PS I been on this site long enough to know not to value any of your opinions so no good trying to talk me into watching it either.

Unless maybe manker or chalice says it's good and then I'm still doubting chalice.

You're quite right there, squire. I'd doubt me too, mainly as an exercise in Aristotelian endeavour, you understand, not in any practical sense. Which reminds me of a joke wot my mate made up the other night. Who did Jesus call when he wanted his bathroom tiled? Grouting Thomas.

I will categorically endorse the fuck out of Breaking Bad on every level conceivable by your puny 1940s brain. It's the show that made me shut the fuck up about the wire. True maverick, experimental, meticulous drama. I can forgive your faithlessness for the fiasco that was Lost. I was wrong. You saw it here first. It was a pile of wank. I'm over it now.

The difference here is the original conceit. Lost was a mystery chipping pieces of itself away until nothing is left. Breaking Bad instantly confronts us with an inevitable outcome and its staying power is the cinematic chicanery which keeps us hooked until it's reached. This is to say nothing of ingenious, convoluted, cause and effect, tight tight tight, scripting, fucking hernia-inducing brilliance of the cast, the amazing sound, and overall fucking down to the bone coolness of it all.

I do find it pretty hard to swallow that you haven't seen it, but knowing you like I do (not in the slightest) it would at least appeal to the auteur in you. In fact... Fuck you all over the place if you don't wanna watch it. I hope you die in a chemical spill.

[megabyteme]

You're quite right there, squire. I'd doubt me too, mainly as an exercise in Aristotelian endeavour, you understand, not in any practical sense. Which reminds me of a joke wot my mate made up the other night. Who did Jesus call when he wanted his bathroom tiled? Grouting Thomas.

I will categorically endorse the fuck out of Breaking Bad on every level conceivable by your puny 1940s brain. It's the show that made me shut the fuck up about the wire. True maverick, experimental, meticulous drama. I can forgive your faithlessness for the fiasco that was Lost. I was wrong. You saw it here first. It was a pile of wank. I'm over it now.

The difference here is the original conceit. Lost was a mystery chipping pieces of itself away until nothing is left. Breaking Bad instantly confronts us with an inevitable outcome and its staying power is the cinematic chicanery which keeps us hooked until it's reached. This is to say nothing of ingenious, convoluted, cause and effect, tight tight tight, scripting, fucking hernia-inducing brilliance of the cast, the amazing sound, and overall fucking down to the bone coolness of it all.

I do find it pretty hard to swallow that you haven't seen it, but knowing you like I do (not in the slightest) it would at least appeal to the auteur in you. In fact... Fuck you all over the place if you don't wanna watch it. I hope you die in a chemical spill.

Forget it, Chalice. There's only 5 words that'll get Idol to watch:

Malcolm's dad in his underpants.

[Rart]

I like to think of Lost and Breaking Bad as polar opposites. One had absolutely no idea where it was going and the other knew exactly where it's going. That's not to say Breaking Bad is predictable, the journey is really what it's all about and its anything but predictable. While you always have an idea of whats going to happen, you still never really know whats going to happen. The twists, unlike some shows, can catch you off guard, yet at the same time, they're perfectly reasonable and plausible given the course of the show. It doesn't pull shit out of its ass. Its fucking brilliant stuff.

I also found this interesting as well, posted from another site (about this scene):

Spoiler: Show

When Badger is telling Skinny Pete about the theory that when you use the teletransporter in Star Trek, you are actually dying and having a carbon copy made on the other side, it's more than just babbling. It is actually a long-argued and deeply philosophical question that has relations to philosophers like Derek Parfit and John Locke, and moreover, it's a conversation directly addressing the central point of Breaking Bad as a show:
How much can someone change before he is something else entirely?

I'm not a philosophy major so I apologize if I don't explain all this adequately. I studied and read about this theory back in college and was reminded when the show addressed it. Anyway, let's start with the theory itself.
The theory that Badger is discussing is Derek Parfit's teletransporter theory. It has to do with the following thought experiment:

"Suppose that you enter a cubicle in which, when you press a button, a scanner records the states of all the cells in your brain and body, destroying both while doing so. This information is then transmitted at the speed of light to some other planet, where a replicator produces a perfect organic copy of you. Since the brain of your Replica is exactly like yours, it will seem to remember living your life up to the moment when you pressed the button, its character will be just like yours, and it will be in every other way psychologically continuous with you. Are you sure the person on the other side is you?"

Essentially, the question poses the idea that "you" aren't being transported at all, and instead, you're just dying. A copy of you is made on the other side, but it's not you.
Going back to the episode itself, we can now see that Badger's mindless babble actually holds deeply significant meaning to the show. As you are transported to your new destination, are you simply going there, or is something more morbid happening?

I think this is also a commentary on Walter White. So many people have said that this show is about his descent into becoming the truly vile Heisenberg, and how bit by bit, whoever Walter White was at the beginning of the show has ceased to exist. As Walter White has transported to his new destination as Heisenberg, has he simply gone there? Is he Walter White AS Heisenberg? Or has something more morbid happened? Is Walter White dead?

[IdolEyes787]

So apparently the show is a favourite among clinically depressed, morbidly obese, househusbands,annoying wise beyond their years children and loutish formerly drug addicted Irishmen.If that's not a ringing endorsement then I don't know what is.
Still I'm reserving judgment until either a least one accountant unhealthily obsessed with David Boreanaz weighs in or someone delivers proof that there is a ninja subplot that also involves strippers and/or strippers .

[chalice]

Holy fuck Blart. Lay off the e numbers. Speak to an adult about all these feelings you're having. We're not qualified.

Yeah, the body obsessed introvert, agoraphobic demographic is massively under-represented.

No, wait. Watch it and don't shut the fuck up. .

[megabyteme]

I like to think of Lost and Breaking Bad as polar opposites. One had absolutely no idea where it was going and the other knew exactly where it's going. That's not to say Breaking Bad is predictable, the journey is really what it's all about and its anything but predictable. It fucking brilliant stuff and while you always have an idea of where it's going, you still never really know where its going. Its fucking brilliant stuff.

Ivy league English class ain't what it used to be.

[IdolEyes787]

I also found this interesting as well, posted from another site (about this scene):

Spoiler: Show

When Badger is telling Skinny Pete about the theory that when you use the teletransporter in Star Trek, you are actually dying and having a carbon copy made on the other side, it's more than just babbling. It is actually a long-argued and deeply philosophical question that has relations to philosophers like Derek Parfit and John Locke, and moreover, it's a conversation directly addressing the central point of Breaking Bad as a show:
How much can someone change before he is something else entirely?

I'm not a philosophy major so I apologize if I don't explain all this adequately. I studied and read about this theory back in college and was reminded when the show addressed it. Anyway, let's start with the theory itself.
The theory that Badger is discussing is Derek Parfit's teletransporter theory. It has to do with the following thought experiment:

"Suppose that you enter a cubicle in which, when you press a button, a scanner records the states of all the cells in your brain and body, destroying both while doing so. This information is then transmitted at the speed of light to some other planet, where a replicator produces a perfect organic copy of you. Since the brain of your Replica is exactly like yours, it will seem to remember living your life up to the moment when you pressed the button, its character will be just like yours, and it will be in every other way psychologically continuous with you. Are you sure the person on the other side is you?"

Essentially, the question poses the idea that "you" aren't being transported at all, and instead, you're just dying. A copy of you is made on the other side, but it's not you.
Going back to the episode itself, we can now see that Badger's mindless babble actually holds deeply significant meaning to the show. As you are transported to your new destination, are you simply going there, or is something more morbid happening?

I think this is also a commentary on Walter White. So many people have said that this show is about his descent into becoming the truly vile Heisenberg, and how bit by bit, whoever Walter White was at the beginning of the show has ceased to exist. As Walter White has transported to his new destination as Heisenberg, has he simply gone there? Is he Walter White AS Heisenberg? Or has something more morbid happened? Is Walter White dead?

Plagiarize much?

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