Nice ending.
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Nice ending.
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
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I can't believe they killed Jessie,the bastards.
Since AMC did a pre-finale marathon of the series,I PVRed them all and have come to the uninvested conclusion after viewing 3ish seasons that the show basically painted itself into a corner. As Walt got progressively "badder" and basically everything for everybody else goes to Hell,the characters had to lose a lot o their "colouring" and couldn't help but get less interesting as time passed.
I know most/all will disagree but then you're all drugged up cretins who worship violence and evil* so I don't except otherwise.
I also have this theory that a lot of the frenzy and hyperbole calling the show "the greatest ever" is becauseyouwe the unwashed masses are so desperate to attach ourselves to greatness,if even by the thinnest of associations.
Anyway that's what I think.As like I've said the directing is exemplary but the writing with notable exceptions ain't that original and nothing to write home about.
*Mostly Meg.
Last edited by IdolEyes787; 09-30-2013 at 10:46 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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Not at all. It's way too premature to heap 'greatest of all time.' I don't think it's even close: the Shield being thematically similar, was more effective at conveying the fallout. Stronger finale too. Compared to something like the Wire*, it isn't even in the same zip code. BB is easily accessible, and ridiculously well shot and framed to be sure.
Just keep in mind those goofs on imdb also voted Shawshank and LOTR as being greater than Godfather I&II. Speaks volumes.
*I guess I'm one of those obnoxious Wire fans, this still cracks me up:
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I think that you've hit the nail on the head with Breaking Bad being more accessible.
The greatest problem with The Shield was that it lacked arc.When MacKey executes his fellow cop in the first episode,you stop rooting for him and everything that transpires after ceases to matter.
On the other hand Breaking Bad had the good sense to present Walt as a good man who through circumstance becomes bad.So you root for him blind to the fact (as Meg's quote illustrates) that he was really bad all along.Probably some people still haven't clued into that fact.
That's the genius of the show. The good has always been bad and the bad(Jessie) has always been good. Or maybe the bad are capable of still doing good and the good are still capable of doing bad.That plus the occasional nasty death.
As for The Wire simply to dense for a public that wants quick and easy resolution to everything.
Make something too hard to follow and general rule is that most people won't.
Also I couldn't agree more about the movies if I had selected them myself.
Peter Jackson did a reasonably good job on LoTR save Return of the King* but even at 10 hours running time,the films needed more storytelling and less CG fighting.
Except for better source material , upped budget and major stars this is basically Krull.
Shawshank went nowhere and even King knew that when he decided that it warranted short story and not novel status.
*Channeling George Lucas
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More Sam and Frodo scenes? Actually, I found most things about those movies a little disproportionate. However, it never stopped me from enjoying them.
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In any case, fuck stating what makes a show good or bad, for we all have personalized tastes, and all that noise does the preconsumer little favor. Rather, shy away from that context and stick to professing and elaborating on what elements you enjoy, found mediocre, and detest. Opinions can resonate, but convictions merely introduce resistance.
Speaking of which, Battlestar Galactica and Deadwood are the best shows ever!
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They didn't. He rode off into the sunset after strangling Todd and not killing Walt. At least that's how I remember it.
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[/QUOTE] From Idol
The good has always been bad (Walter) and the bad (Jessie) has always been good. Or maybe the bad are capable of still doing good and the good are still capable of doing bad.[/QUOTE]
Interesting... I never looked at it that way. The assumption is that Walt was good and turned bad (thus the title, Breaking Bad) and that Jessie was always a bit of a fuck up... going from bad to worse... however, in the grand arc of the series... Jessie was torn by morality and injustice, while Walt was... well... the one who knocks...
@Macky... agree with BG... unfortunately mostly appealing to an audience of 30 something's living in the basement of their parents home (or married with six kids)... and unless you know exactly what order to watch the series in... well... that would be giving too much away now wouldn't it...
Last edited by Vestibule; 10-02-2013 at 08:40 AM.
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I appreciate the fact that even with overwhelming evidence to the contrary,you are still determined to take every statement at face value.They didn't. He rode off into the sunset after strangling Todd and not killing Walt. At least that's how I remember it.
You must be both a fantastic friend and a horrible poker player.
Also I think Breaking Bad may be the only series that I've ever watched that never once lost track of the narrative.
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You obviously meant the actor, Jesse Plemons. Obviously.
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No actually I'm referring to Jesse James because even though it's been a long time,I still haven't gotten over that.
Goddamn you Bob Ford,you coward.
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