"Prophet Mohammed Lovers"

[Snee]

u have the right to say what u want but in my faith which my god says in soraa el tawba : to kill anyone who disbelieve in the existance of god and disbelieve that mohammed is the messenger of god .

Peaceful as fuck like.

Racist.

[chalice]

You don't have to be a zealot to want to sacrifice your life.

In any war-like scenario, given the pretext of a religious agenda, stupid people will die for that.

Where I'm from, the same pretext exists and is perpetuated but religion isn't the issue.

Leibensraum is the issue. People in my country don't despise each other because of a proclamation nailed to church door or an endorsement of rubber johnnys or a contention of the Immaculate Conception. They hate each other because we've blown each other to buggery over a conflicting national identity.

Fucking hun cunts.

[SAM]

u have the right to say what u want but in my faith which my god says in soraa el tawba : to kill anyone who disbelieve in the existance of god and disbelieve that mohammed is the messenger of god .

That's not what the verse mean
the verse talk about the time of war and about pagans who worship stars and statues not about people of the book.
it says "kofar" which means people who deny holy books and it talks about time of war cause in the end of this verse it says "till the war ends"
so it talks about time of war not in all times.
add to that in many verses of quran allah ordered us to treat people kindly
"لايناهكم الله عن الذين لم يقاتلوكم فى الدين ان تبروهم"
Allah don't prohibit you to be just and kind to the ones who don't fight you in fact Allah orders you to be kind to them cause he likes his believers to be kind and just.
that's what quran says.
more to add
"you will find that Christians are more kind to you cause there are among them priests and monks whose their eyes weeps when they listen to the words of Allah and who a have sensitive hearts and kind souls"
this is another verse in quran
so saying that we order to kill the non believers is a total lie. we are ordered to tell themm about islam and to let them choose the right thing for them.
the reason we faught Romans and Persians that they killed the messengers who sent to them asking to enter their territory for preaching.
Even in the war prophet mohammed ordered us not to kill the priests not to take churchs and turn them to mosques not to force people to enter islam.
it all written in the books of islam even the radicals know that.
in the quran
Allah says" if a pagan-not even a man from the people of the book-ask for your help you must help him and stand by him till he is safe and then tell him about islam and leave him in peace"
any one woh doesn't go by quran or listen to prophet mohammed teachings is just a radical muslim and actually we can't consider him muslim.

[Mr JP Fugley]

You see how people may misconstrue what your religion teaches mate. If blokes say / post stuff about killing non-believers.

[Mr JP Fugley]

But is he really a Muslim one is forced to ask oneself.

[emperorIX]

That's still rubbish.
These people are an easy target for recruitment into terrorist organizations because of world events and not their religion.

Rubbish, indeed.

Islam as a religion is simply a banner under which certain groups, who strive to gain politically or economically, have sought to rally support. The underlying message of Islam is clear and is likely a familiar one to most westerners, as it most likely owes its roots to Judaism and Christianity. the religion itself has never condoned the present acts of terrorism as the religion is only being used to rally support for the causes of other groups. Often passages are taken out of context to justify these acts much like the witch burnings have been justified by poorly translated passages from the bible in an attempt to further subjugate women and stamp out other competing beliefs. So, one can't really state that Muslims are to blame. The fact that these terrorists are Muslim is simply circumstance, these acts of terrorism at its roots are not motivated by religion, but by politics. They are simply pawns in a politically motivated struggle that has been going on for centuries.

The current acts of terrorism can be directly attributed to western meddling in middle eastern affairs, motivated by western interests in the region. But, this isn't anything new. The west has a long history of imposing its will on other nations in its efforts to secure its own interests in natural resources. So, it was bound to happen that a nation would rise up against them. And, for impoverished countries that are outgunned, terrorism is a natural choice as a method of warfare...it has proven highly effective so far. I mean look at the reaction of 9/11, most people weren't even aware of the terrorism taking place abroad. Some have called it cowardly, but how else does David stand up to Goliath?

Anyway, the point i was trying to get across...the Muslim religion is not to blame for terrorism, politics is the true culprit. there's nothing inherently wrong with the religion and it has its fair share of ignorant followers as do all religions...some of which are apperently in this thread.

And to the OP's comment about PML's sigs professing their faith, professing your hatred of something is far from the same as stating that you love something. I mean, why would anyone want to illicit the inevitably negative reactions to such a sig. And to suggest that they should be removed, what if I objected to TPB because it tracks child porn? would it be right for me to suggest that this site disallow any mention of it in sigs? Unlikely. To each their own, live and let live, and so on.

Sorry for the long post to those that bother to read it.

[IdolEyes787]

See.
But we still all agree that George Bush is the devil,right?

[chalice]

That's still rubbish.
These people are an easy target for recruitment into terrorist organizations because of world events and not their religion.

Rubbish, indeed.

Islam as a religion is simply a banner under which certain groups, who strive to gain politically or economically, have sought to rally support. The underlying message of Islam is clear and is likely a familiar one to most westerners, as it most likely owes its roots to Judaism and Christianity. the religion itself has never condoned the present acts of terrorism as the religion is only being used to rally support for the causes of other groups. Often passages are taken out of context to justify these acts much like the witch burnings have been justified by poorly translated passages from the bible in an attempt to further subjugate women and stamp out other competing beliefs. So, one can't really state that Muslims are to blame. The fact that these terrorists are Muslim is simply circumstance, these acts of terrorism at its roots are not motivated by religion, but by politics. They are simply pawns in a politically motivated struggle that has been going on for centuries.

The current acts of terrorism can be directly attributed to western meddling in middle eastern affairs, motivated by western interests in the region. But, this isn't anything new. The west has a long history of imposing its will on other nations in its efforts to secure its own interests in natural resources. So, it was bound to happen that a nation would rise up against them. And, for impoverished countries that are outgunned, terrorism is a natural choice as a method of warfare...it has proven highly effective so far. I mean look at the reaction of 9/11, most people weren't even aware of the terrorism taking place abroad. Some have called it cowardly, but how else does David stand up to Goliath?

Anyway, the point i was trying to get across...the Muslim religion is not to blame for terrorism, politics is the true culprit. there's nothing inherently wrong with the religion and it has its fair share of ignorant followers as do all religions...some of which are apperently in this thread.

And to the OP's comment about PML's sigs professing their faith, professing your hatred of something is far from the same as stating that you love something. I mean, why would anyone want to illicit the inevitably negative reactions to such a sig. And to suggest that they should be removed, what if I objected to TPB because it tracks child porn? would it be right for me to suggest that this site disallow any mention of it in sigs? Unlikely. To each their own, live and let live, and so on.

Sorry for the long post to those that bother to read it.

Spot on post.

Do continue.

[Mr JP Fugley]

That's still rubbish.
These people are an easy target for recruitment into terrorist organizations because of world events and not their religion.

Rubbish, indeed.

Islam as a religion is simply a banner under which certain groups, who strive to gain politically or economically, have sought to rally support. The underlying message of Islam is clear and is likely a familiar one to most westerners, as it most likely owes its roots to Judaism and Christianity. the religion itself has never condoned the present acts of terrorism as the religion is only being used to rally support for the causes of other groups. Often passages are taken out of context to justify these acts much like the witch burnings have been justified by poorly translated passages from the bible in an attempt to further subjugate women and stamp out other competing beliefs. So, one can't really state that Muslims are to blame. The fact that these terrorists are Muslim is simply circumstance, these acts of terrorism at its roots are not motivated by religion, but by politics. They are simply pawns in a politically motivated struggle that has been going on for centuries.

The current acts of terrorism can be directly attributed to western meddling in middle eastern affairs, motivated by western interests in the region. But, this isn't anything new. The west has a long history of imposing its will on other nations in its efforts to secure its own interests in natural resources. So, it was bound to happen that a nation would rise up against them. And, for impoverished countries that are outgunned, terrorism is a natural choice as a method of warfare...it has proven highly effective so far. I mean look at the reaction of 9/11, most people weren't even aware of the terrorism taking place abroad. Some have called it cowardly, but how else does David stand up to Goliath?

Anyway, the point i was trying to get across...the Muslim religion is not to blame for terrorism, politics is the true culprit. there's nothing inherently wrong with the religion and it has its fair share of ignorant followers as do all religions...some of which are apperently in this thread.

And to the OP's comment about PML's sigs professing their faith, professing your hatred of something is far from the same as stating that you love something. I mean, why would anyone want to illicit the inevitably negative reactions to such a sig. And to suggest that they should be removed, what if I objected to TPB because it tracks child porn? would it be right for me to suggest that this site disallow any mention of it in sigs? Unlikely. To each their own, live and let live, and so on.

Sorry for the long post to those that bother to read it.

I enjoyed reading that. True story.

[SAM]

But is he really a Muslim one is forced to ask oneself.

yes.we all have to question our faith
i was born muslim but after that i choose islam cause i believed it's the right way.
some radicals though don't agree to that.they are twisting some verses to stop people from thinking.
but Allah asks us to read and to think and observe and choose.

You see how people may misconstrue what your religion teaches mate. If blokes say / post stuff about killing non-believers.

i don't get what you mean?
may you explain.sorry