Olympic torch through London et al

[Alien5]

another idiotic regular hiding behind a second account are you? why do i bother?

go back to school and learn the difference between thugs and protesters!

No I only have this one account... I feel no need to hide anywhere.

Oh! And I know the difference, and I know that grabbing that torch in that way could constitute assault in law.

Maybe you should go and read something about protesting, you'd probably learn that the most effective protests are those that have been done with the absence of violence and with the absence of direct action... like grabbing a torch.

no the most effective protests are the ones where the message gets beamed all around the world by the news coverage, just like the London and Paris ones of the last few days.

"thugs" grabbing the torch seems to be the only thing that you like to talk about, and you don't seem to know about that either.

the London protesters did use the non-violent approach to lie down in the street, it worked because the police then had to make them take the torch to its destination by bus.

i don't think you've watched or read much news about the protests in London or Paris have you? i sat and watched a lot of news reports and articles as i could today and yesterday.

you keep talking about a "thug grabbing a torch" maybe you didn't see or read enough.

[manicgeek]

"thugs" grabbing the torch seems to be the only thing that you like to talk about, and you don't seem to know about that either.

the London protesters did use the non-violent approach to lie down in the street, it worked because the police then had to make them take the torch to its destination by bus.

i don't think you've watched or read much news about the protests in London or Paris have you? i sat and watched a lot of news reports and articles as i could today and yesterday.

you keep talking about a "thug grabbing a torch" maybe you didn't see or read enough.

Hmmm... maybe a discussion about the laws of the land are over your head old chap, never heard of "Obstructing the Queens highway" ? See what happens is a bunch of criminals gather together and all break the law at the same time, by blocking law abiding citizens access and use of the highway (that's a road)...

Nah!!! Bored again...

[Alien5]

you're changing your arguement from thugs to laws now? bad choice, ok...all the protesters were released without charge, i clearly saw police and protesters both getting hurt in scuffles, it would be six of one and half a dozen of the other if it made it to court, which it wouldn't, that would probably just bring even more extremely bad publicity, sorry.

[manicgeek]

Hold the phones... I thought you'd watched hours of coverage... do you really know what went on... how can you make claims like this

the London protesters did use the non-violent approach to lie down in the street

and follow that with this

i clearly saw police and protesters both getting hurt in scuffles

Now come on make your mind up which was it thuggery or non-violent... and how did those people you see get hurt in a non-violent protest... heat exhaustion was it ?

What was it you were saying about lame arguments again...

[Alien5]

if you had read or watched the news you would know there were both scuffles and non-violent protests. the protests were going on at different places along the route and at different times.

have you seen anything other that a "thug" grabbing the torch mate? please read and watch the news reports, you're making a fool of yourself now.


the "thug" you keep going on and on about was one man on his own, standing in one place at one time of the day.

[manicgeek]

if you had read or watched the news you would know there were both scuffles and non-violent protests.

have you seen anything other that a "thug" grabbing the torch mate? please read and watch the news reports, you're making a fool of yourself now.

watch the news please, there were protests going on at different places and at different times.

the "thug" you keep talking about was one man on his own, standing in one place at one time of the day.

I think you must have confused yourself old chap... I mean scuffling with the police would be the act of a thug and you said there wasn't any thuggery... didn't you ?

So were there scuffles or not, was it non-violent protest (as per your earlier claim) or not, and if there were who did it if not the protesters ?

I'll tell you what why don't you go and make some notes about what you've said before so that you don't keep contradicting yourself ?

[Alien5]

yes i agree, all scuffles between police and protesters are due to "thugs" manicgeek?

Several small scuffles broke out as police tackled some of the protesters.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7332942.stm

go and watch the news please you might learn something about successful protests.

[manicgeek]

yes i agree, all scuffles between police and protesters are due to "thugs" manicgeek?

Several small scuffles broke out as police tackled some of the protesters.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7332942.stm

go and watch the news please you might learn something.

Ah! Learning is it... why didn't you say... I could have helped you there...

Here you go, this is a good place to start to learn about China and it's human rights actions/abuses...

Of course it's probably no where near as entertaining as watching thugs challenge Officers of law enforcement, but I'm confident of it's educational value.

[Alien5]

Im not interested.

[Barbarossa]