I am not very good in english, but i will try it
Before I used to donate very often, only once for buying ratio.
Now, due to restrictions in my country for making payments via internet Iīm donating less, but I manage myself and I still do it and I will make everything in my hands for keeping that way.
Uploading trillions of Gb, writing thousands of posts in forums or chatting 30 hours/day on irc donīt pay the bills.
Donations are good! because we have to help to keep trackers forever.
Every Time I like to giveaway!
Regardless of what the donations are being used for, yes, they are a great thing. These private bt communities are great and wonderful so it requires little effort on our part so support them however we can as active and contributing members.
i recently donated to my fav tracker, and i felt good about it. just knowing that you are helpin, even in a small way, its nice.
well..
when we tried to have no bonuses at all for donations, lets just say it didnt work.
we dont get a lot of donations anyway, probably 0.2% of a trackers userbase will donate (and thats a top heavy estimate). and when we got rid of all benefites that plumetted to 0.05 (i was never any good at maths so these nubers are not spot on lol)
My point is, without incentives and benefits, most members just wont donate, they expect something in return, if you dont give them anything, they donate elsewhere to somewhere that they do get something in return.
not a lot of members would cry if any tracker went down due to lack of funds, it would be
"oh well, good while it lasted, now lets see what can replace it"
we already have a ready made replacement for us anyway, Nemesyz, ive got nothing to do with that tracker, but i bet if we went down, everyone would jump on that bandwagon.
no tracker is irreplacable, but if no one donated, or if trackers didnt offer incentives to donate, then trackers wouldnt last long (not big trackers that need beasts of servers anyway)
I always thought of torrenting to be free but in sites like bmtv where keeping a ratio is seriously hard, I might donate for some upload credit. I've got a pathetic connection(you wouldn't wanna know) and no matter what ISP i choose the result is the same. This would benefit me and would benefit the site too. I don't see anything wrong with this.
Lastly i'd like to tell those who're against "pay2leech", not everyone has a fast connection so don't alienate yourself from the realities of life.
Last edited by soulreaper; 04-08-2008 at 04:29 PM.
soulreaper keeping a positive ratio simply depends on your managerial skills.
us with lower upstreams just have to organize out leeching, prioritywise. download stuff that is very popular, for example. the best strategy is to download something that is very big in size (30GB or +) and very popular. this way you will get over 1.5 ratio on it.
keep doing that, and with the buffer you can now get things that are less leeched, and seeded. rarer stuff you know less people will want.
and no, nobody needs to pay. if you want to help out, thats fine, and thank the community, perfectly understandable. but: firstly, beware of the dangers of some shady staff, that pirate your credit card through paypal fraud, and secondly, you never have to pay. it goes against what we do. its meant to be free.
people paying are usually paying for news access. and even then you can also get it free, if you're smart enough.
paying is only a last and desperate measure. and even then, it should be very carefully considered beforehand.
surely if the staff of a tracker, done that, then your friend could have got his money back and took them to the cleaners.
this is the first time i have ever heard of this happening, i have never done it and never will, but if you were so sure it was the tracker, you should have hauled them over coals to get the cash back.
and like i mentioned, we have had 0 benefits, and we got 0 donations while we had 0 benefits (mind you our benefits are not extravagant and we do not sell Gigs) but we had to put them back on just to get some donations in.
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