Best way to get your foot in the door? (Metaphorically speaking)

**stoi** · 04-14-2008, 08:32 AM

well like i said, i edited my post vitually straight after typing it, i jumped in feet first (which i used to do a few years back but thought i had learned my lesson lol)

but your right, it probably needed to be said, but then, no one will care anyway, or they will forget it tomorrow and rely completely on that WTAW thread again.

I see to many people treating that thread like the be all and and all of trackers, if its lvl 1-3 who cares, if its lvl 4-6 care a little bit more but not much, if its lvl 7-10 though, oh be very very careful.

christ they are just trackers, after some security from the powers that be, they are not keeping you out because they dont like you, or because they want to be lvl 9-10, they are keeping you out because of what has happened in the past with other trackers, and some were probably staff on those other trackers, so they have seen what can happen first hand, so they are just being ultra careful now.

Problem is the WTAW thread puts them on a pedastel for everyone to see, now you will have to ask the staff of those trackers if they like that or not, but personally i would prefer to be a lvl 1-3 tracker, but have members respect us and our rules just like they do with the lvl 9 and 10.

doubt that will happen any time soon though.

**SAM** · 04-14-2008, 08:50 AM

I dunno even if this levels thing continue i think they need some improvement.
Rarity isn't the ultimate factor in leveling trackers.
Let's say all trackers closed signups what will happen to the levels.
I think we will have all the trackers in level 9.

this levels thing makes new-born trackers think that by closing sign-ups and say they are private community they will elite.

Not to mention it open the door to some retards to think they can profit from people greed and curiosity.
What a shame?

**stoi** · 04-14-2008, 09:02 AM

well not that i agree or care about the levels 1 bit.

But we have been closed now for 6 months, probably a bit longer actually. and had no invites.

but we did not go above level 4.

why

because we have loads of accounts to trade.

but

im a comm rep, so your not allowed to trade accounts on FST anyway

but we still never went up to above lvl 4 and probably never would unless we pruned 20,000 users, which was not going to happen.

but then if we open and let in a few hundred members (like we did last night) i bet it wont be to long before we are down to lvl 2.

the big factor is.

Lvl 1-2 you never see accounts getting traded, as they are open signups anyway

3-6 you see accounts getting traded all the time, so the members dont respect those trackers, they only use them as a stepping stone to the next lvl.

7-10 you see the odd account pop up now and again but not often. so members tend to respect them more.

In all honesty i had an account for a week on a lvl 9 tracker (white fluffy animal called neo

) and it just wasnt what i was expecting at all so i deleted my account there after a week, i tried to like it, i even uploaded something, but just wasnt for me.

Now im not saying someone else wont think its great, each to their own, but why trade 3-4 trackers (or at least try to) from lvls 4-8 to get into the 1 lvl 9 which you may not like once your in.

just seems daft to me, and not the way bittorrent should be done at all.

**SAM** · 04-14-2008, 09:17 AM

I agree with you but i don't think it's about likeness when it comes to level 9 or 10 trackers.
They want to have them to feel they are elite or special.And because those trackers are the top of the pyramid so they are the ultimate goal.
And then they will say they retired but actually once there are a new or promising tracker will pop up they will awake and run for it.First saying they don't trade and they love community and if it doesn't work .they will trade their way in.
trading is addiction.you can cure some but you can't cure all.

**yevgeny** · 04-14-2008, 09:37 AM

i guess if people like you they will be more interested in helping you. i seen some guy come in here recently and get everything he wanted pretty much in one post. but for most it takes a lot longer for people to like or trust you.

the common consensus is be more active, and give freely and you shall receive.

**The Wanderer** · 04-14-2008, 10:35 AM

In all the honesty same thing happened to me, too at a certain tracker. It was all this hype about how great it is, how wonderful it is, how level 10 it is. I tried to use it, meaning I downloaded stuff from there even if I could've downloaded from somewhere else sooner, I even was active in their forums. In the end I realized that "level 10" tracker wasn't for me and I came back to my old "level 3" trackers where I always felt like home.

I always saw "the level" as an currency exchange for traders.

Originally Posted by stoi

In all honesty i had an account for a week on a lvl 9 tracker (white fluffy animal called neo

) and it just wasnt what i was expecting at all so i deleted my account there after a week, i tried to like it, i even uploaded something, but just wasnt for me.

**vinod242** · 04-14-2008, 11:19 AM

There is no hard and fast rule to get into a tracker, if u r lucky u may signup directly on the tracker without any request for invites. On the other hand if u r not able to get in then there are 2 ways to achieve which i would guess u know already.
One is a quick fix trading, trust me majority of the people on this forum stay away from traders
The other way, though a long one is to stay active and request for an invite, people here will definitely invite u.
So cross ur fingers for ur 30 day trial to finsih ASAP.

**Kyokushin** · 04-14-2008, 11:50 AM

Well those 5 pages of advise should give you a good general idea.
The one thing that I can suggest is this: Don't chase high level trackers just because they are high. That won't make you more l33t or get you laid more. Some of the BEST trackers around are level 2. Great content, great speed, great packs, etc.

If in any moment you see yourself struggling to maintain decent ratios, donwloading gbs of stuff you don't want just to seed it back, calculating how every single file could affect your overall ratio, you have failed in the BT world my friend.