Do you have a mother ilw, or were you found in bullrushes too?
Do you have daughters?
If you answered yes to either or both of them, I hope you feel a sense of shame.
Do you have a mother ilw, or were you found in bullrushes too?
Do you have daughters?
If you answered yes to either or both of them, I hope you feel a sense of shame.
>H
i have mother and a sister. My belief is firmly in the 'they have completely equal rights' camp. However, you are forcing this belief on others, which is something you would completely disagree with if the belief went against yours. Why is your belief right and theirs wrong, thats just arrogant. If someone said all children should be given sex education at the age of 4 or 5 or something and then funded groups that went around in secret and taught children, I would assume that you would be against it. (or if you wouldn' t i'm sure you can come up with something you wouldn't want to be taught to children).
Ah but women are adults I hear you think, well why if we have a legal separation of children from adults is it any different to have a legal separation of women and men?
Oh, I see, not all women are created equal? Is that a religious thing with you, or did you come to your own conclusion?
Go argue with your mum and sister. But before you do, go back and click on the link I provided. Get that quote into context. Then say those women are wrong.
>H
If you read my last post you'll realise i am in essence playing devil's advocate. However, do you really not understand the ethical argument or are you just being stubborn. What you believe is no more correct than what anyone else believes. The belief that women shouldn't be educated is equally as valid as the belief that women should be educated. Just because you have been brought up beliving one and not the other and have the power to enforce it on other countries is no reason to do so. I have seen you arguing a vaguely similar case for Americans abusing their power
Dazed & Confused
Nobody is trying to force anything on these women, they want our help.
http://www.rawa.org/
http://afghanwomensmission.org/programs/he...atol_report.php
http://www.rawa.org/help.htm
Is it? Who says?The belief that women shouldn't be educated is equally as valid as the belief that women should be educated.
Are you saying that women who want to be educated should be denied the opportunity if others object?
And I still don't believe you've read the story I linked to.
>H
I read the story and I was aware of it beforehand.
how about people in America who want terrorist training? Would the US government stand idly by and allow secret societies to train people in creating chemical and biological weapons? You may think these things are different, but the only difference is in what you perceive is dangerous.
Who says it isn't right to believe women shouldn't be educated.Is it? Who says?The belief that women shouldn't be educated is equally as valid as the belief that women should be educated.
If you believe you know what is right then you're wrong. Or to paraphrase the matrix:
Do not believe you can know what is right because that is impossible. Instead only try to realise the truth.
What truth?
There is no right.
Dazed & Confused
Originally posted by ilw@14 September 2003 - 13:27
I read the story and I was aware of it beforehand.
how about people in America who want terrorist training? Would the US government stand idly by and allow secret societies to train people in creating chemical and biological weapons? You may think these things are different, but the only difference is in what you perceive is dangerous.
Who says it isn't right to believe women shouldn't be educated.
WTF?????
I'm confused, where's the comparison?
Women, that's who, ya bluddy great wanker!
So now you're getting so desperate for sensible arguments you're turning to fiction for inspiration.
You give me a call when you land.
B)
Broken
What is moral and ethical in one country, isnt in another.
You CANNOT judge a country on the ethics that you have been brought up to believe in, as they are not Universal.
For example, the female circumsition.......
I know how bad that is, however............why is it excepted that its OK to circumsice Males?
I believe its WRONG to damage a childs body in any way, unless its necessary for medical reasons, whether this be Circumsition for religious reasons (eg Jews) or getting a young girls ears pierced because her mother wants to put Ear Rings on her.....
To those that use "religion" as a basis for it....I would point out that they are claiming God got the design wrong in the 1st place, which seems a little strange...
However, i understand that my beliefs are not universal....I wouldnt dream of forcing them on others.
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