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    It seems like anything can be "Cracked" these days, why should this stop anyone?

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    I'm sure that it will be able to be cracked, but I'm also sure that the skill and precision required to mod it will be greater than ever before. Yes anything can be cracked, but you have to admit it's been getting more difficult. Remember when cell phones could be unlocked with software and a usb cable? well now many require messing with test points while you flash. Yes PS3 games have been copied, but we still can't play them on the PS3. Al in all, you have to admit that cracking has gotten harder.

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    I think most of you are missing the point here. Why in the world would a motherboard manufacturer, pay for a chip to put on its board, that will hinder sales to gamers? The answer is they won't, at least they won't if they have a choice. The only way the chip will sell is if they pass a law that says mobo manufacturers must use it, and that's not going to happen.

    They have been tinkling on the heads of the good guys for so long, they think that increasing the stream will stop the pirates, but its not the pirates they're tinkling on.

    And the guy who stated they will loose money hit the nail on the head. Why does a good guy download a ripped game? to cheat and not pay? No, he downloads to see if its worth buying and to delay his purchase until the price comes down from 50 bucks. It used to be demos that let you try a game, now its complete games. So the logical move for the game makers should be to offer free but very low graphics quality versions of the game. Then I have an incentive to purchase the full eye candy coated version after testing the game. Sort of like downloading a low quality avi to see if the movie is worth buying when the price hits $10 or $12.

    And I believe that may be the future of P2P. Allowing to legally download full versions of low quality games and movies as an incentive to buy the full blown product. That would certainly put a damper on the activities of pirates. Why should I risk fines and jail time downloading a full rip when I can have a low quality one legally? I for one am going to buy the good stuff eventually anyway, and skip over the crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appzalien View Post
    I think most of you are missing the point here. Why in the world would a motherboard manufacturer, pay for a chip to put on its board, that will hinder sales to gamers? The answer is they won't, at least they won't if they have a choice. The only way the chip will sell is if they pass a law that says mobo manufacturers must use it, and that's not going to happen.

    They have been tinkling on the heads of the good guys for so long, they think that increasing the stream will stop the pirates, but its not the pirates they're tinkling on.

    And the guy who stated they will loose money hit the nail on the head. Why does a good guy download a ripped game? to cheat and not pay? No, he downloads to see if its worth buying and to delay his purchase until the price comes down from 50 bucks. It used to be demos that let you try a game, now its complete games. So the logical move for the game makers should be to offer free but very low graphics quality versions of the game. Then I have an incentive to purchase the full eye candy coated version after testing the game. Sort of like downloading a low quality avi to see if the movie is worth buying when the price hits $10 or $12.

    And I believe that may be the future of P2P. Allowing to legally download full versions of low quality games and movies as an incentive to buy the full blown product. That would certainly put a damper on the activities of pirates. Why should I risk fines and jail time downloading a full rip when I can have a low quality one legally? I for one am going to buy the good stuff eventually anyway, and skip over the crap.
    wrong noob, they would leave things as they are, and not throw money away to get the same effect

    and about the very low graphics quality theory you are putting one, it's the stupidiest thing me and 90% of fst users ever heard noobie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appzalien View Post
    Why in the world would a motherboard manufacturer, pay for a chip to put on its board, that will hinder sales to gamers? The answer is they won't, at least they won't if they have a choice.
    If the game creators pay the motherboard manufacturers to install a chip, it will be in the motherboard manufacturers' best interest to accept the proposal, should the price be high enough to profit them. Duh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Appzalien View Post
    They have been tinkling on the heads of the good guys for so long, they think that increasing the stream will stop the pirates, but its not the pirates they're tinkling on.
    I don't think anyone is 'tinkling' on anyone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Appzalien View Post
    Why does a good guy download a ripped game? to cheat and not pay? No, he downloads to see if its worth buying and to delay his purchase until the price comes down from 50 bucks.
    A minuscule amount of the pirating population actually buys the very game they download... and, quite frankly, I think their dumbasses. Inhibiting the amount of people who pirate their games will not hurt their profit (by preventing 'good guys' from 'trying the game out') as much it will help them (forcing the piraters to buy the game, if they want to play it).

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Appzalien View Post
    offer free but very low graphics quality versions of the game
    I don't think this is a good idea. The user will already know the storyline and will have finished playing, although having eye-cancer from all the low quality

    The classic design for game demos was good for me. I could check it out, there were a few levels sufficient to know if this will be a game I enjoy or not. Of course with the same quality as the full game, so I can evaluate if it runs well and looks good on my system. And if I don't want to pay even in this model, there isn't much hope I will fall for their prices anyway...

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    isn't this trusted computing coming back or something? who know what else they will put in that chip? lol

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    Requiring an encryption chip for a game to run would encourage mobo manufacturers to install them although it's not going to stop the crackers any more than dongles have.
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    As long as there are codes ; there're person's to decode them

    As long as there are Bad Guys trying to rip our money from our buckets ; there're guys trying to save our bucks

    As long as I use torrent ; I don't care about what they say ... let them go do whatever they wanna do , I am Busy pirating now hahahaha

    The best thing they can do is to bribe P2P pirates & give them money to stop doing that :-) LOL

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    The only instance when a 'pirate' buys a game is if he wants to play it online. Even then there are ways to get legit keys via the net.

    It's just not worth it. What for? To get a casing and some leaflets? You can print these from the scene as well.

    I say until they actually drop game prices to what they should be (there's still a very large price margin they could cut), there are very little incentives to stop pirates from downloading full games and never paying for them (except when the prices drop significantly, i.e. 3 years after the game is released).

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