What Trackers Are Worth [With Reviews and Ratings]

[stoi]

well for a start, its wrong to make cash that way, and if the site was found out it would be blacklisted by other trackers.

but demonoid is an invite, they are closed to open signups, and its about $8 the one i seen.

Funfile i have no idea about.

the point is though, even demonoid you cant get in without an invite, BCG you dont even need an invite to get in.

[KennyX]

lol, give the money to charity and share the IP's then. Make it common knowledge that this is being done with the sole intention of catching invite buyers and will anyone be upset? Even the possibility will put some people off.


How about a note on the first page saying that some trackers open signups automatically when an existing account is disabled : snowtigers and xbox-sky are examples with no invites available. TheBox is an example of this, but where invites are available and it might not open up.

[stoi]

well how long do you think our account will last on ebay if we done that though, for 10 sales maybe.

and i think you have got the wrong end of the stick here.

Its not the gullible buyers we want to ban, they probably dont know better (most of them anyway) its the sellers we want to get. so your scheme wont catch those anyway.

and we dont work like that anyway, even if 0 accounts are pruned for 30 days, we will still take in between 3,000 and 15,000 members (just depends how we are feeling day to day on how many we take in that day/week/month)

EDIT: and if you think a few trackers selling accounts, and then benning the buyers will stop this practice, it wont, there will always be people to sell them and people to buy them.

[KennyX]

well how long do you think our account will last on ebay if we done that though, for 10 sales maybe.

Why? Are you going to advertise that you are the staff of a tracker? Give people fair warning that trackers are always on the lookout for accounts /invites that have been sold. Hence the one month part I mentioned, get the positive feedback and continue doing it. Unlike the invite sellers the tracker owners do have the legal right to dispose of invites as they see fit, so no problems with ebay on that score. Why tell them they were disabled for buying the invite anyway?

You could also do this on the many sites that allow invites to be sold as well, not just ebay, so you would catch even more. Yes, you will eventually be banned from their sites but the lesson will have been seen (and will be remembered) by members of the invite selling site.

Its not the gullible buyers we want to ban, they probably dont know better (most of them anyway) its the sellers we want to get. so your scheme wont catch those anyway.

Gullible buyers? I dont think so. I dont know the cash values of sites except on ebay, where I laugh at people paying money for demonoid, and the $100 that you posted on FST for a BC account/invite. You can rest assured that if I was paying this kind of money I would damn well know all I could about the site. If invite buyers are on an invite selling site then is there any chance that they are gullible?

If you are in any way familiar with the torrent world then you know that buying invites is as big a 'crime' as ratio cheating. Yes, there may be a few who manage to type a torrent site name into ebay at random (I am kidding here) and decide to bid, but most people who buy invites would know what they are buying and have made a rational choice to purchase the invite. This applies even more to the torrent sites with a higher cash worth.

and we dont work like that anyway, even if 0 accounts are pruned for 30 days, we will still take in between 3,000 and 15,000 members (just depends how we are feeling day to day on how many we take in that day/week/month)

Sorry stoi you seem to think I am talking about BC in all this but I am not as you are now open signups. This is for trackers that remain invite only.

As I am already in BC, I dont care what you do with invites or signups (except in the lower security sense that being open for anyone to signup entails). I am only concerned that you dont start the semi-random disabling that HDBits seem to be doing!

EDIT: and if you think a few trackers selling accounts, and then benning the buyers will stop this practice, it wont, there will always be people to sell them and people to buy them.

I did make this point, but I had hoped you would infer that what I suggested would act as a strong deterrent by targeting the people you can easily catch. Difficult to catch the sellers, but an awful lot easier to get at the potential buyers.

[stoi]

ok, we put on 30 accounts on ebay for sale, we sell them, disbale them and their IP and contact other sites about this. they then disable them.

we get bad feedback, ebay and paypal look into it, its fraud, because we are not giving them what they asked for, at the least, paypal and ebay close our accounts. and the sellers keep on selling and the buyers keep on buying anyway.

so we may catch 10-100 in a the first month, but after that we are screwed .

and we will only be disabling those that deserve to be disabled.

dupe accounts, cheaters, traders/sellers if we still do get any.

and in all honesty, its easier just to do this that do what your suggesting lol

[KennyX]

BT-Arg to level 2. Invites available to PU's which only requires 20gb upload. Also there is no demand for it.

I now think that something to indicate how invites are gained for a tracker would be very useful. As would some indication of the demand for it.



Off topic reply to stoi:
I am not suggesting anything. When I posted it was about a thought I had. I never suggested you (as a representative of BC) should act upon it, although you seem to think I was talking about BlackCats for some reason.

The only reason I even replied was that you rubbished the idea as if I was addressing it to you, and gave some weak objections that I refuted and am going to continue to refute here.

ok, we put on 30 accounts on ebay for sale, we sell them, disbale them and their IP and contact other sites about this. they then disable them.

Try to imagine I am not talking about BC but another site. Your way would be a stupid way to go about it for ebay. Offer one or two per month, rotate it among half a dozen people and you could easily catch 100 a year.

Do the same thing with the invite sites, act in an intelligent fashion not in some way that is going to draw attention to you.

we get bad feedback, ebay and paypal look into it, its fraud, because we are not giving them what they asked for, at the least, paypal and ebay close our accounts. and the sellers keep on selling and the buyers keep on buying anyway.

Again, why? You make it clear that these are invites you are selling and you are not responsible for anything except the invites. You are not giving them anything except an invite to a hypothetical torrent site, you dont promise them anything more than that and once they have signed up to the site they have 'used' their invite for the sole purpose for what it was intended. You are not responsible, in perpetuity, for the account they create from the invite. All perfectly legal from a contractual point of view.

If you were in any way worried about the fraud aspect then be sure to notify the invite purchaser on Ebay that you are not responsible for the actions of any third party and that the hypothetical torrent site in no way endorses or supports the sale of invites to their site.

Bad feedback point already addressed.

so we may catch 10-100 in a the first month, but after that we are screwed .

You maybe, but if it was the hypothetical torrent site with people who had thought it through then I see them catching a lot more. Even if you did it your way, would catching 100 invite buyers not be good enough? Post it on sites like FST and people would be a lot more wary of buying invites to a tracker especially if you said that you had some more people running the 'sting'.

and we will only be disabling those that deserve to be disabled.

dupe accounts, cheaters, traders/sellers if we still do get any.

and in all honesty, its easier just to do this that do what your suggesting lol

Two points here.

It seems you still think I am talking about BC, even though I already said I was not; and that I am suggesting that you adopt this, I am not.

Easier? Yes it is easier for a site with open signups, but would your method be effective in any way for a site that is invite only that has a problem with invite sellers? This is what I was talking about.

Do I think any site will do this? No. Do I care? No.

[stoi]

well i was replying to trackers in general not just BCG. (to the invite selling anyway) which will never happen, or i dont think it will, some may already be doing it, but if they are, im unaware of it taking place.

but what if all trackers done it our way, no invites and opened up for so many at a time. obviously ours is very excessive atm, its already out so 5 every 15 minutes.

but what if they done 1 every year, (but didnt tell anyone) they are still open to an extent, so they would all have to drop lvls in this silly thread, and invites, accounts wouldnt be for sale.

and im not saying that will ever happen either, but its a possibility.

[OmaRin0]

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[pone44]

thats not smart for the sites security. Is a PC-Video game site ,right? not a member.Ebay attracts attention!

ok, we put on 30 accounts on ebay for sale, we sell them, disbale them and their IP and contact other sites about this. they then disable them.

we get bad feedback, ebay and paypal look into it, its fraud, because we are not giving them what they asked for, at the least, paypal and ebay close our accounts. and the sellers keep on selling and the buyers keep on buying anyway.

so we may catch 10-100 in a the first month, but after that we are screwed .

and we will only be disabling those that deserve to be disabled.

dupe accounts, cheaters, traders/sellers if we still do get any.

and in all honesty, its easier just to do this that do what your suggesting lol

[g1golos]

ScT must go up becouse very much requests...