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[S3v3N]

The security excuse to ban traders is so lame , big sites like thepiratebay,mininova,etc etc are there and never been down.

and if bit-tards can get accounts on l33t torrent sites then anti piracy agencies can get it easily.

That's my opinion may be i am wrong .

[The Flying Cow]

S3v3N if an undercover pig wants to get inside a tracker to then prosecute it, all he'd have to do is trade.

IMO that would be much easier than integrating into a community and taking the time to know people, then get invited.

If the pig took the latter route, by the time he was in the "1337" sites like you put them, he'd have been converted, and wouldn't want to harm the community anymore.

[FileZ]

if u give orignal mail with user and pass , no one can catch u

Torrent sites staff would see the ip range change .

u can try it by your self if u dont believe me , u can trade any tracker and no one can catch u

Real Fact ^^

Torrent sites staff would see the ip range change .

traded? no way. i moved to egypt. such a nice country to live.

spam , eh ?

[DKre8ive1]

Here is a scenario that has happened and could happen to people that trade accounts and end up even bringing in innocent people that have no idea what happened into the mix.

1.User A trades account to User B
2.User B cheats and gets caught cheating
3.User A's and B's IP and usernames are passed around the different sites that work together to stop account trading and cheaters.
4.User A and B end up loosing a few accounts and if caught on some sites even there inviter's get there invite privileges removed or worse.

User A is labeled as a person who invites cheats/trades accounts and User B is labeled a chest/account trader and the different inviter's are left wondering what the hell did they do to loose there invite privileges or worse.

Here is how I see invite requests working a good user makes an invite request on FST and someone with invites reads it and maybe has an invite to spare, so he/she does a little background checking by reading posts on here and maybe even asking other trusted members on here for advice.

After all this if the inviter feels he wants to invite the person he asks for ratio proofs and any other info he feels he needs and fills the request threw pm.

This way there is no trade and more then likely you will have invited someone that will contribute to the site in question and make you feel good for inviting that person.

[DV8type]

trackers aren't against users, they just want to be secure. The stance you take however is against the well being of trackers. It's people like you that are responsible for sites getting shut down. Clearly you don't give a fuck if sites get closed down. You are against BT. I would put you in the same category as anyone who is a threat to private trackers, like BREIN etc.
You are happy to take what you want and happy to treat the people that give it to you FOR FREE like shit and irresponsibly make trouble for them. Yeah great morals you have there.

It's not a fucking game kids. Staffers don't want to waste their time chasing after foolish kids.

[LiMuBai]

Here is a scenario that has happened and could happen to people that trade accounts and end up even bringing in innocent people that have no idea what happened into the mix.

1.User A trades account to User B
2.User B cheats and gets caught cheating
3.User A's and B's IP and usernames are passed around the different sites that work together to stop account trading and cheaters.
4.User A and B end up loosing a few accounts and if caught on some sites even there inviter's get there invite privileges removed or worse.

User A is labeled as a person who invites cheats/trades accounts and User B is labeled a chest/account trader and the different inviter's are left wondering what the hell did they do to loose there invite privileges or worse.

Here is how I see invite requests working a good user makes an invite request on FST and someone with invites reads it and maybe has an invite to spare, so he/she does a little background checking by reading posts on here and maybe even asking other trusted members on here for advice.

After all this if the inviter feels he wants to invite the person he asks for ratio proofs and any other info he feels he needs and fills the request threw pm.

This way there is no trade and more then likely you will have invited someone that will contribute to the site in question and make you feel good for inviting that person.

And if someone from the authorities wanted to get into these 'high level' sites, what would stop them from making a few cute posts here talking about 'community' and getting accounts on other sites, using a seedbox there and have these 'ratio proofs'. Now you're still inviting someone who you don't want to join your community but it wasn't a trade at all.
I just think that it would be smarter for the authorities to go after large communities like TL or RevTT because it's not only easier to get into them but theres more content being spread around and perhaps they're making more profits. Yet, I don't see any of the staff from those sites coming here and talking about trading and protecting their sites.
This doesnt mean i'm pro/anti trading. It's just that excuse of traders bringing down sites is lame. If the authorities decide to take down a tracker, they have many more ways to do it than 'trading'. Stopping people from trading is not going to stop sites from getting busted.

[Polarbear]

Here is a scenario that has happened and could happen to people that trade accounts and end up even bringing in innocent people that have no idea what happened into the mix.

1.User A trades account to User B
2.User B cheats and gets caught cheating
3.User A's and B's IP and usernames are passed around the different sites that work together to stop account trading and cheaters.
4.User A and B end up loosing a few accounts and if caught on some sites even there inviter's get there invite privileges removed or worse.

User A is labeled as a person who invites cheats/trades accounts and User B is labeled a chest/account trader and the different inviter's are left wondering what the hell did they do to loose there invite privileges or worse.

Here is how I see invite requests working a good user makes an invite request on FST and someone with invites reads it and maybe has an invite to spare, so he/she does a little background checking by reading posts on here and maybe even asking other trusted members on here for advice.

After all this if the inviter feels he wants to invite the person he asks for ratio proofs and any other info he feels he needs and fills the request threw pm.

This way there is no trade and more then likely you will have invited someone that will contribute to the site in question and make you feel good for inviting that person.

that's right. allow me to add, that it doesn't matter if user A trades the account to user B or gives it away for free. the results are the same.

it's even more likely because people who give away accounts are usually not very careful who they choose. they claim to help other members when they in fact just do it for the pseudo "i did a lot of giveaways, now invite me" reputation.

accounts shouldn't change hands at all. don't give accounts, don't take accounts. not in trades, not for free.

if you want to become a member of a private torrent site be yourself, have your own identity and you'll get invited.

there's not a single site that wants fakes, traders and rule breakers.

Yet, I don't see any of the staff from those sites coming here and talking about trading and protecting their sites.

they are fed up with fst. they don't warn you, but ban you instantly when caught. you should be lucky that some other tracker staff spend their time to discuss here at all.

[psychophil]

that's right. allow me to add, that it doesn't matter if user A trades the account to user B or gives it away for free. the results are the same.

it's even more likely because people who give away accounts are usually not very careful who they choose. they claim to help other members when they in fact just do it for the pseudo "i did a lot of giveaways, now invite me" reputation.

accounts shouldn't change hands at all. don't give accounts, don't take accounts. not in trades, not for free.

if you want to become a member of a private torrent site be yourself, have your own identity and you'll get invited.

there's not a single site that wants fakes, traders and rule breakers.

Yet, I don't see any of the staff from those sites coming here and talking about trading and protecting their sites.

they are fed up with fst. they don't warn you, but ban you instantly when caught. you should be lucky that some other tracker staff spend their time to discuss here at all.

Yes, well said polarbear if a user no longer requires a tracker acc.
Then they should
1) Ask a staff member to delete it or
2) Let it be inactive until it is disabled.
They should NOT trade or giveaway an acc.

[DKre8ive1]

And if someone from the authorities wanted to get into these 'high level' sites, what would stop them from making a few cute posts here talking about 'community' and getting accounts on other sites, using a seedbox there and have these 'ratio proofs'. Now you're still inviting someone who you don't want to join your community but it wasn't a trade at all.

I never have never stated in any of my posts that the authorities can't get into any site if they wanted too I am sure they will find a way.

I just think that it would be smarter for the authorities to go after large communities like TL or RevTT because it's not only easier to get into them but theres more content being spread around and perhaps they're making more profits. Yet, I don't see any of the staff from those sites coming here and talking about trading and protecting their sites.

Different sites have different goals they wish to obtain and have different ways of handling things.

This doesnt mean i'm pro/anti trading. It's just that excuse of traders bringing down sites is lame. If the authorities decide to take down a tracker, they have many more ways to do it than 'trading'. Stopping people from trading is not going to stop sites from getting busted.

Again I have never stated that traders have brought down a site but could it happen yes. Has it happened in the past who knows not me thats for sure.

[LiMuBai]

Sorry DKre8ive1, I didn't mean to imply that you said all that. I was actually going to make a different point about your post but ended up saying something else. I was just responding to the general theme of the thread. heh. sorry again. It wasn't meant to be anything personal against you.