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[The Flying Cow]

Ultimately, I think what tracker staff dislike in the whole trader arena is that that way they cannot know for sure who their user pool are.

Imagine if you were running a tracker for a small number of people (like ScL, or FSC) and you wanted to make sure you knew/had an idea who all your userbase were. Don't you think if people started giving their accounts away or trading them, that that would make everything so much more complicated?

I can't see what the attractive in holding an account that doesn't have your own handpicked username/internet "identity" in is. I mean it would be like re-using a condom..

[mievmo]

Account = Private use.
Invite = For friends :/

[Simulador]

besides...why would anybody trade an iTS acc????

[IdolEyes787]

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they are fed up with fst. they don't warn you, but ban you instantly when caught. you should be lucky that some other tracker staff spend their time to discuss here at all.

I can understand their frustration but FST is far from monster that you make it out to be polarbear.
There's a lot that goes on here besides the account and invite part of it.
I have learned a lot about trackers that I would have a hard time finding out anywhere else.
If certain sites choose to look at only the negatives then they are doing a disservice to a large number of the people here .

[Polarbear]

I mean it would be like re-using a condom..

good analogy.

what many people don't understand is, that most of the trackers that are on the top of that dreaded list in the invite section are communities. a main part of being a part of these communities is getting to know other members.
it's impossible to know someone when the person behind the username is changing as it happens with account trading. that's why trading or giving away accounts ruins the community aspect of a site.

There's a lot that goes on here besides the account and invite part of it.
I have learned a lot about trackers that I would have a hard time finding out anywhere else.
If certain sites choose to look at only the negatives then they are doing a disservice to a large number of the people here .

i know. otherwise i wouldn't post here.

[LiMuBai]

Yes, well said polarbear if a user no longer requires a tracker acc.
Then they should
1) Ask a staff member to delete it or
2) Let it be inactive until it is disabled.
They should NOT trade or giveaway an acc.

People shouldn't do alot of things. Everyone has a different opinion on what people should/shouldn't do. If you ask riaa/mpaa they'll tell you that you shouldn't be pirating their property. I have a feeling that if you tell people not to do something, of course they'll be more curious than ever and try that exact thing. It's wishful thinking that people would just stop trading accounts.

It doesn't help when there are reviews of trackers saying it's a 'secret' tracker. what the hell. i would want to know whats the big secret one way or another. Why not just give an honest review instead of someone from the tracker boasting it up.

[MadIrish]

Listen to yourselves

Listen to each other

Filesharing was built on freedom of information, of sharing, of being a community, of sticking it in the eye of corporate profiteering and exploitation.

You've become no better than the suits you tried to overthrow


It's all gone a bit animal farm - Every animal is equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

Let's get back to the essence of what this is all about, getting good quality stuff without having to pay through the nose for it.

What the hell has happened to the concept of file sharing?

Here is how I see invite requests working a good user makes an invite request on FST and someone with invites reads it and maybe has an invite to spare, so he/she does a little background checking by reading posts on here and maybe even asking other trusted members on here for advice.

After all this if the inviter feels he wants to invite the person he asks for ratio proofs and any other info he feels he needs and fills the request threw pm.

This way there is no trade and more then likely you will have invited someone that will contribute to the site in question and make you feel good for inviting that person.

Trading or giving away accounts is just plain nuts imo, and shows no regard for whatever tracker, I don't get it at all. Giving out the occasional invite in an altruistic fashion to someone looking for one, who you've done your best to establish is genuine and likely to be a good user, in a way that does not break a site's rules, is completely different.

I've got access to every site I could ever want or need over the years, most through open-signup at some point of the sites life, a few from a real life friend or two, a few from being offered them out of the blue in conversation with like-minded people on trackers, and one or two after staff members on sites have offered them in other site's forums. And I've given some out in the same way, to real-life friends, to people who have been helpful and asked nothing in return, and to people with good, long standing accounts on trackers I use who would contribute positively wherever they are invited.

In doing it that way I'm proud to have brought a few good members to some of the sites I enjoy using, while never jeopardizing a sites safety, or the status of my accounts..... and I've never had an invitee banned anywhere (just a couple of disabled for inactivity). That's a good feeling.

[LuckIEE]

If you giveaway an account, or get one from a giveaway, all the tracker staff will see is the IP change on the account.
They will assume the original account holder and the new account holder traded.
There is a strong possibility you will both be banned and your info handed to other trackers, with you both being labeled as traders and banned from further trackers.

So don't fucking do it, for your own fucking good.

It's up to you, of course, but.
The amount of users that don't understand this simple, fucking concept astounds me.

what if you signon from a different location regularly??

[jam0980tr]

Here is how I see invite requests working a good user makes an invite request on FST and someone with invites reads it and maybe has an invite to spare, so he/she does a little background checking by reading posts on here and maybe even asking other trusted members on here for advice.

After all this if the inviter feels he wants to invite the person he asks for ratio proofs and any other info he feels he needs and fills the request threw pm.

This way there is no trade and more then likely you will have invited someone that will contribute to the site in question and make you feel good for inviting that person.

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DKre8ive1 what he said he is 100% right that's how i got into a tracker that i allways wanted for my music... And am still there uploading more than i download..

p.s i have been here for a bit now and i have learnt few things about public invite giveaways ect.. it's not safe to give out to people you don't know, i tryed it in the pass learnt alot frm them and i see theres no point in giveaways. If i need something i ask my mates on msn if they haven't got it then i will ask here.

[Nemrod]

"Private tracker" means exactly that: a private site for sharing things running by a group of guys who make some rules. It´s their site, they use their skills, time and efforts to do something they want in a very clear way. And by doing that , they are putting their asses in risk.
I don´t know why people think that trackers are something they have the right to have, like Social Security, free education or government assistance. No sir, the UNO does not have a budget for supporting trackers, nobody has that right, not me, not you, not he guy at your left hand. You MAY join to those sites if your profile is what the owners and workers of the site are looking for. Is that so hard to understand?

Imagine you have a party in your house, you tell your friends to go, and the closest can go with company, if I am invited by you, you are expecting to me... not a guy nobody knows who goes there with my ID. You are my friend, you know how I am and you know I´ll keep a good behavior, and if I go with a friend, you assume it´s somebody I vouch for him, no problem... and if he/she is not... if he steals your momma earrings I´ll be in deep troubles, I´ll lose your friendship, and all our mutual friends will know I am an irresponsible guy, but even in the worst case you localized the problem... but if you are at the door, ask a guy you´ve never seen before his name and says: Hey, I am Nemrod, I´m pretty sure that in that case you´d kick my ass immediately.

Curious, people that believe they have the right to have any single tracker they want, and use any way to get it, are the same that always say they don´t donate, are the same that always have fun giving addresses to sites don´t want that, are the same that disrespect to everybody, not only staff... users too. Are always the same that don´t give a shit for anything else except their own whims.

And I never understood the security thing like something strictly related to authorities, the security of a site is much more than that... I´d say that even the most naive staff knows that if any authority wants to join to a site, they will get it. Security is not having cheaters, is to be sure that uploaders are good people and won´t upload a torrent called "Walt Disny-Bambi-1942" and when you burn it you find that you downloaded "Taylor Rain in Weapons of anal destruction" (something like that happened to me in eMule). Security is that the users won´t receive PMs offering Viagra, easy money or free pass to porn sites, security is that if a torrent status says that there are 25 seeders, there are in fact 25 seeders and not 4 seeding real data and 21 sending fake data. Security is that for being a member you have access to things that can put in risk the site, and that´s why the guys put their asses in risk MUST know who the hell is each and everyone of the members in THEIR site.

Every site has rules, almost always basic rules, easy to follow... if by any reason you are not agree with them or you can´t do the required, go on, find other site but don´t get into that because what you are doing is that because of you, those that are good users every day have more and more restrictions and in 1 year from now we all will be suspects, every day the most of trackers are restricting invites and signups... and that, due to "proud" behaviors like some I read here is what is fucking off the whole torrent thing.