F*N - Again improved

[superclover]

villageshaman:

what jam is talking about is the actual scene side of torrents, not about the everyday use of downloading something for you to have. people involved in the scene feel "cheated" if they do not get a full release because the scene has high standards, which are meant to be followed. for most of us here, we use ftn to download content and just want to watch whatever we download, so we do not care about the .sfv and the sample etc, but the reason it is a scene release is because it comes with all those files. if people didnt care wether it was a scene release or not surely they would download most of their content of TL? (no disrespect ftn) if ftn claim to be a scene tracker, then they should include the full files in their releases, but they dont because, as brandon says, it is a waste of bandwidth, and also, not many people use them, or need them. i am just trying to make it clearer what jam is talking about. i am not attacking ftn, saying they are bad or anything, because i use the site and enjoy it very much, i am merely trying to make it clear to you that a scene release should include the full amount of files, but maybe to someone like you, who does not need these added files, and just wants the movie to watch, it does not matter, but to other people, this is important.

=)

[The Flying Cow]

Clear as day.

[dunson]

I didn't even notice they didn't have samples. lollerz

[The Flying Cow]

Yeah me neither dunse.

It's really irrelevant for us, I guess.

[superclover]

its irrelevant for me as well but i was just sticking up for jam

[Skiz]

1: How exactly do we cheat?

Brandon Don't get me wrong all the stuff i said it's my own small opinion about ftn. ok you like to know cheating bit

1 FTN auto uploading movies,dvdr,tv shows, where the hell are the Sample?

Sample missing indeed that's is called cheating Brandon just to improve the pretime. giveing out 99% of the release. Still after cheating ftn still behide the Races. You don't have to follow SCT foot step Brandon by cheating that's just a opinion am sayying my self Brandon.

2 I know what you mean Brandon, i can't say anything!!

3 honesty i shouldn't have said that bit am sorry.

4 why i care is in this torrent world, i like both sides tracker and forum and
them trophy holders sucks and if they wasn't there i bet ftn would have been very active tracker, you get me what am sayying Brandon

I hope this clears up the topic Brandon it's understanble

Who the fuck downloads samples?

Learn to read an NFO.

[jam0980tr]

Brandon Don't get me wrong all the stuff i said it's my own small opinion about ftn. ok you like to know cheating bit

1 FTN auto uploading movies,dvdr,tv shows, where the hell are the Sample?

Sample missing indeed that's is called cheating Brandon just to improve the pretime. giveing out 99% of the release. Still after cheating ftn still behide the Races. You don't have to follow SCT foot step Brandon by cheating that's just a opinion am sayying my self Brandon.

2 I know what you mean Brandon, i can't say anything!!

3 honesty i shouldn't have said that bit am sorry.

4 why i care is in this torrent world, i like both sides tracker and forum and
them trophy holders sucks and if they wasn't there i bet ftn would have been very active tracker, you get me what am sayying Brandon

I hope this clears up the topic Brandon it's understanble

Who the fuck downloads samples?

Learn to read an NFO.

plz understand what am tryying to say it's easy for you to say who the fuck download samples.

Skizo let me tell you as a mate samples are needed to compete the full scene rels,
(for uploaders this is very important and you will have no sfv error if you got the sample)
you didn't read all my poster on this thread, people still don't understand me.

Skizo I have been reading nfo's last 5 years mate.

Skizo don't get me wrong scene put there files there to be download at 100% not at 99% anyway what ever ftn or sct are doing isn't gonna change the torrent world people will go else where to get there files, uploadding 99% that is called tryying to cheat there pre or uploading uncompleted scene release.

[fOrUmAs]

well i always seed for at least 4 or 5 days so this is pretty useless for me

but that will not be the problem much since FTN members seed they torrents by the book

[Disme]

what do you expect? Make a tracker with 10 users then hype it everywhere how good it is and how hard it is to get in. People want it just so they can say they have it and not use it like you say, and people who have don't use it because it doesn't have much practical use and there are more than enough alternatives. The entire approach to FTN is just wrong at the moment if you ask me and if i were Brandon i'd put some serious work into it, and the mentality needs to change to do that, 5k users isn't enough, no matter how many times you look in the mirror and repeat it.

When reading your post I wonder if you are actually a member on FTN?

Anyways ... I find it to be a very good move. As I see it the FTN-staff is givin their members a lot of credit and trust.

That can't be an easy decision. Let's face it, hit 'n run's are very common in almost every tracker. Imho that has to do with the fact there's a lot BT'ers that aren't very mature, that are egoistic, selfish, immoral and not givin a damn about their fellow tracker-members.

I guess a tracker is just like real life. Most people in 'real' life tend to behave the same. Only intrested in their own welbeing and not caring for others. I guess FTN's userbase is one of the better communities out there and I hope this new rule will be succesfull and will be the start of a whole new tendency on other trackers so that these ratio-rules that had to be imposed on members can be reduced to a seeding-recommendation.

You might find this a little idealistic of me to think it will succeed, but with the right userbase and a little incentive from the tracker-staff it should have a chance to work out just fine.

Good luck with it.

[kondrae]

great news. but too bad i dont have ftn