G.o.d (((((((((athiest))))))))))

[ilw]

you don't have to believe in hell for it to exist. Just like you don't have to believe in black holes for them to exist

[chalice]

Originally posted by Neil__@13 September 2003 - 22:39
I would like someone to answer a question and explain a paradox and I will use Christianity for example only.

I do not believe in God.

The Christians intimate that failure to believe in their God condemnes me to Hell.

But, If I don't believe in any God then Hell can't exist either.

So My question is.

Where will I burn Exactly?

Neil.

In the lounge.

[ilw]

lol

what i want to know is, could god create another god?

[imnotanaddict]

Federal Judge Makes It Official -- America Now an Atheist Nation
Special commentary from AFA chairman Don Wildmon

The issue isn't a granite stone with the Ten Commandments inscribed on it. Never has been. The issue is much more diverse and important than a piece of stone.

The issue was best stated by none other than Federal Judge Myron Thompson, who said that the display of the stone containing the Ten Commandments (which also contains a host of other historical documents) is illegal. Thompson said the central, most important issue was this: "Can the state acknowledge God?"

After asking the question, he went on to answer it. "No."

That is the issue. Lest we fail to understand what has occurred here, let me explain. A single, lower-court federal judge has bluntly told every American that America is now officially an atheist nation.

In one swift stroke of the pen, Judge Thompson tossed out over 225 years of American history and law. In one swift stroke of the pen, he has instituted a new form of law based on what he wants it to be. Rex has become lex. He wears a black robe and he says he is the law.

Go back and read the First Amendment, the one Judge Thompson destroyed in the name of preserving it. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion," the First Amendment says. Congress has passed no law establishing religion. But what Congress refused to do, indeed because Congress refused to do it, Judge Thompson did. He instituted as the law of the land the religion of atheism, which says there is no God.

Not only did Judge Thompson usurp the power of Congress, he also took away the rights of every individual and state. The second half of the establishment clause of the First Amendment reads: "... or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

This is precisely what one lower federal judge has done. He told Americans who disagree with his official state religion of atheism that he can and will prohibit the free exercise of their religion -- unless, of course, that religion is atheism. He stripped both Congress and the people of their rights. He set himself above the law because he considers himself to be the law.

From this day forward, our entire judicial system must be based on the religion of atheism. Follow that to its logical conclusion. In the future there will be no frame of reference from which to decide law. Law will become what any person wearing a black robe and sitting in court desires it to be. The First Amendment has been ripped apart in the name of upholding it. Orwell's 1984 has arrived.

No, you will not notice any drastic changes immediately. There is still a remnant left in the hearts and minds of the current citizenry. But when that remnant dies out, those who come after us will see a big difference.

The state will become intolerant of any religion other than atheism. That, of course, will come into conflict with people of conscience whose religion differs from that of the state. That is when the persecution, quite legal I might add, will start. It was the atheist Santayana who said: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence, wrote: "The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please."

[chalice]

Originally posted by ilw@13 September 2003 - 22:47
lol

what i want to know is, could god create another god?

That's a good one.

And if he did, who would win at chess?

[titey]

Originally posted by ilw@13 September 2003 - 17:45
you don't have to believe in hell for it to exist. Just like you don't have to believe in black holes for them to exist

I don't belive in Santa Claus

• Does that mean he exists?

[clocker]

Originally posted by titey+13 September 2003 - 16:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (titey @ 13 September 2003 - 16:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ilw@13 September 2003 - 17:45
you don&#39;t have to believe in hell for it to exist. Just like you don&#39;t have to believe in black holes for them to exist

I don&#39;t belive in Santa Claus

• Does that mean he exists?

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No.

But you won&#39;t be getting any socks on Christmas morning.

[ilw]

what do you mean you don&#39;t believe in santa? How else would you get presents to everyone at christmas time
They don&#39;t just magically appear you know.

[titey]

Originally posted by ilw@13 September 2003 - 18:21
They don&#39;t just magically appear you know.

Of course they do.... with the aid of Chinese leprchauns&#33;

[Biggles]

Iamnotanaddict

Don&#39;t you think you are reading rather too much into the ruling of the judge?

What was the provenance of the stone and where was it situated?

If the primary feature of the stone was Christian text, was it placed in a Christian place of worship or was it in a public place designed to serve the needs of all creeds and colours?

If it was the latter has the judge not upheld your constitution by maintaining a separation of state and church - a primary feature of your political system?

I think rather than an article of faith in atheism it was possibly an attempt to prevent sectarianism - the scourge of many a state.

Perhaps if the stone is for a public place, it could be recarved with edicts of all faiths - from the Native Americans through the faiths of the Torah and on to Bhuddist, Hindu, New Age faiths and Humanism - thus showing that all faiths are equal under the constitution and the law.

However, if the stone was meant for a church then I concede perhaps you have a point.