It makes me feel unsettled when jokes are made about the killing of millions of people. (or any for that matter)
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It makes me feel unsettled when jokes are made about the killing of millions of people. (or any for that matter)
It wasn't a joke, I found it funny in the context of the conversation.
He said it as a reply to two aspects of judaism: 1. That jews are god's chosen people. 2. That land was "given" to them by their god.
Or is he, as a muslim, practising or not, not entitled to refute claims made by another religion?
BTW, you should hear his views on islam, a religion he grew up with in Afghanistan. His views would certainly annoy many muslims.
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No Hobbes, not out to pasture just yet....Originally posted by hobbes@20 September 2003 - 14:14
Where is Cowswithguns? I thought she would be udderly delighted with my apology. Must be out to pasture.
Again, it is ironic that the very vehicles which claim a loving God, a forgiving God are the cause of so much strife.
Udderly thrilled with the apology, thanks.
I find that whole post disturbing. Particularly when taken in the context of previous posts you have made.Originally posted by Billy_Dean@20 September 2003 - 05:32
I had a long talk to an Afghani mate yesterday, a muslim by birth, but not by practise. He is an unashamed jew hater, his right of course, just as many jews hate muslims.
We had a long discussion\argument on lots of issues, but there was one really funny interlude. It began when he asked why, if jews were god's "chosen people", did this god not intervene in the holocaust. After all, he said, hitler was only one man, surely their god was more powerful than that? He then went on to talk about the jewish "homeland", and asked why, if they were god's chosen people, did he give them some of the worst land in the world. With all the beautiful, green productive land around the world, why there? He then said god was probably trying to lead them somewhere nice, but these stupid people kept getting lost in the desert, after 40 years of this, god finally gave up and said, here, here it is, you've arrived, and left them to it.
Well it was funny at the time anyway.
You find concept like "Jew Hater" easy to deal with and you have described yourself as anti-semitic.
Never mind your religious beliefs, I am more concerned about your political ones.
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JPaul:
What do you want to know?Never mind your religious beliefs, I am more concerned about your political ones.
If you don't mind discusssing it - what your political persuasions are.Originally posted by Billy_Dean@20 September 2003 - 14:16
JPaul:
What do you want to know?Never mind your religious beliefs, I am more concerned about your political ones.
For example would you consider yourself a socialst, or would you consider yourself as being more conservative. Do your allegiances lie to the left or right of center. In either case would it be slightly or more extreme. In fact do you hold political views which would normally be considered extreme. In either direction.
If I lean at all, it would be left, and sometimes right. Is there a position for cynicism?
I don't vote, never have and never will, tweedle dum and tweedle dee politics don't interest me.
My views on lots of things would be considered extreme, were you to know my true feelings.
I am interested, you don't seem like the sort of chap to hide his views. You certainly haven't given that impression.Originally posted by Billy_Dean@20 September 2003 - 14:28
My views on lots of things would be considered extreme, were you to know my true feelings.
You'll really have to be more specific JP, I'm not gonna write a book. What exactly did you want to know? Or am I just meant to say something outrageous?
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