G.o.d (((((((((athiest))))))))))

[i_have_a.d.d.]

Originally posted by insanebassman@15 August 2003 - 11:39
Ok, first, I was able to follow some of the flow in ADD's post... second.. are you:

Atheistic or
Adeistic?

Atheist means anti-religion
Adeist means anti God

The two are not the same. I beleive in pourposful evolution as well as random mutation in nature. I think there is a higher power beyond the physical, but can not prove it. Stephen Hawking, likely the most intelligent human in contemporary existance, believes there is a god. He found god in the numbers. The universe is far too directed for just Chaos to have produced the results we see today. Read his books to clarify as my limited mental capabilities are not up to the task of explaining it.

And please, learn to use proper sentence struture, punctuation and capitalization. Spelling is optional as I suck at that.

Atheistic or
Adeistic? .....well im a lil bit a both but more of the 1st one
and ur the kinda mind im looking for to chat about this stuff cause u R fucken way smarter cause u read those books
anywayz

i also belive in darwens theory of evolution the random mutation in nature
because if scientist cant proove it then we cant asume anything

like my friend told me hes seen some strange things but then he say he belives in god how could he believe in god just because he said he saw some thing like a spirit what if its something else seing things and knowing things are different things


anywayz when a scientist prooves that there is a god im gona SHIT in my panziez

and read my um.. signature i think it makes some sense but dont ever let ppl make u belive in anything!!

[i_have_a.d.d.]

Originally posted by lynx+15 August 2003 - 12:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 15 August 2003 - 12:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-insanebassman@15 August 2003 - 20:39
Ok, first, I was able to follow some of the flow in ADD&#39;s post... second.. are you:

Atheistic or
Adeistic?

Atheist means anti-religion
Adeist means anti God

The two are not the same. I beleive in pourposful evolution as well as random mutation in nature. I think there is a higher power beyond the physical, but can not prove it. Stephen Hawking, likely the most intelligent human in contemporary existance, believes there is a god. He found god in the numbers. The universe is far too directed for just Chaos to have produced the results we see today. Read his books to clarify as my limited mental capabilities are not up to the task of explaining it.

And please, learn to use proper sentence struture, punctuation and capitalization. Spelling is optional as I suck at that.

Atheist is from greek (theos - god), atheos means no god, atheist is one who believes there is no god.
Adeist, if it even exists as a word (it isn&#39;t in my dictionary), would be a mixture of latin and greek, but the deus part would still mean god, and presumably adeus would mean no god.

There is absolutely no reason why the universe could not operate perfectly well under chaos - this is in fact the primary scientific belief.

You seem to confuse religious belief with scientific belief, there is no reason why the two cannot co-exist side by side, unless you feel constrained to believe the bible verbatim.

Why not consider this as a hypothesis:
God made the universe to be a self sustaining, freely developing entity.
Consider how much more complex that would be rather than to have created a universe which he is constantly having to control, and therefore how much more magnificant a creation it is. Why limit the capabilities of your god?

I am an atheist, but that doesn&#39;t mean I can&#39;t think and hypothesise about what a god would be like if one existed. [/b][/quote]
yup yup yup cause if there were such a being that could C ALL hear ALL and do [SIZE=3]ALL
how the fuck could he focus ALL this in his head or what ever it is to do such things

[i_have_a.d.d.]

Originally posted by lynx+15 August 2003 - 12:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lynx @ 15 August 2003 - 12:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-insanebassman@15 August 2003 - 20:39
Ok, first, I was able to follow some of the flow in ADD&#39;s post... second.. are you:

Atheistic or
Adeistic?

Atheist means anti-religion
Adeist means anti God

The two are not the same. I beleive in pourposful evolution as well as random mutation in nature. I think there is a higher power beyond the physical, but can not prove it. Stephen Hawking, likely the most intelligent human in contemporary existance, believes there is a god. He found god in the numbers. The universe is far too directed for just Chaos to have produced the results we see today. Read his books to clarify as my limited mental capabilities are not up to the task of explaining it.

And please, learn to use proper sentence struture, punctuation and capitalization. Spelling is optional as I suck at that.

Atheist is from greek (theos - god), atheos means no god, atheist is one who believes there is no god.
Adeist, if it even exists as a word (it isn&#39;t in my dictionary), would be a mixture of latin and greek, but the deus part would still mean god, and presumably adeus would mean no god.

There is absolutely no reason why the universe could not operate perfectly well under chaos - this is in fact the primary scientific belief.

You seem to confuse religious belief with scientific belief, there is no reason why the two cannot co-exist side by side, unless you feel constrained to believe the bible verbatim.

Why not consider this as a hypothesis:
God made the universe to be a self sustaining, freely developing entity.
Consider how much more complex that would be rather than to have created a universe which he is constantly having to control, and therefore how much more magnificant a creation it is. Why limit the capabilities of your god?

I am an atheist, but that doesn&#39;t mean I can&#39;t think and hypothesise about what a god would be like if one existed. [/b][/quote]
yup yup yup cause if there were such a being that could C ALL hear ALL and do [SIZE=3]ALL
how the fuck could he focus ALL this in his head or what ever it is to do such things

[i_have_a.d.d.]

Originally posted by JPaul@16 August 2003 - 09:51
You can get some at speakers corner.

I assume it&#39;s woofers you need.

2 words "RADIOSHACK"


lol

[RGX]

I meant that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, their own beleifs.

Ive given up from explaining this, work it out yourself

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by i_have_a.d.d.+16 August 2003 - 19:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (i_have_a.d.d. @ 16 August 2003 - 19:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JPaul@16 August 2003 - 09:51
You can get some at speakers corner.

I assume it&#39;s woofers you need.

2 words "RADIOSHACK"


lol [/b][/quote]
THAT&#39;S ONE WORD.

[RGX]

I wasnt sure

[Inevitable]

A logical answer for this is no one knows for sure if there really is a god. Some people do believe some don&#39;t.

[lynx]

I&#39;m sure.

There isn&#39;t

[hobbes]

From my old forum, in response to a post there (for the parts that don&#39;t make sense). It is in response to Lynx, but also another poster who wondered why people disliked atheists.



I don&#39;t get you athiests.

You state that religions are societal delusions created to give the believers a sense of comfort. Life is hard, believe what I say and you will ultimately receive eternal rewards. Faith is belief without proof.

On the otherhand, Atheism is a faith of disbelief. Without proof, you aver that God does not exist. How can one deny (to declare untrue) the existence of God without proof? What is your criterion? A gut feeling, a lack of satisfaction from the provided religions. Whatever, at some point you must deny the existence of God without proof or evidence, which is the definition of faith.

Now, if I had to chose one over the other, I would go for the pain killer. What would motivate one to have the faith of Athiesm. Sounds like someone who is rather angry at the world. One who would rather draw the ire of others, over being ignored. (Most who claim to be Atheists are actually just rebellious teenagers looking to shock people with their defiance.)

Are you sure your not an agnostic? Agnostics question the existence of God in the absence of material proof. They do not have to rely on some intangible thing such as faith.

I believe, as you do, that religions are painkillers and I do not accept them at face value. How can one be right and thousands of others wrong? This becomes more tricky when one contradicts another.

It seems that those who believe, and those who deny, both must rely on faith. I prefer to hope there is something, treat others with dignity and respect, and enjoy my life, as I&#39;m not expecting anything.