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[Assultsniper]

Originally posted by Petri+16 August 2003 - 22:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Petri @ 16 August 2003 - 22:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by "Atheism"@ Wikipedia.org
The term atheism is formed of the Greek prefix a- (meaning "without" or "not") and the Greek-derived theism, meaning a belief in a god (or gods). The literal meaning of the term is therefore without a belief in a god or gods, making any person who does not believe in the existence of a god or gods an atheist -- including both those who believe that no god exists and those who do not take a position on the existence of god(s).

Most atheists do not claim that gods don&#39;t exist. They just don&#39;t believe that they do.

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The other side asserts that God does not exist and did not create us. How do they know this, faith. They offer no explanation as to how we got here.

Ever heard of the "Big Bang" theory? Anyway, "an invisible man in the sky made us" is hardly what I would call an explanation... [/b][/quote]
And why would god be human? or a man? or a personalety at all&#33; doesent make sence&#33;

[hobbes]

From Wikipedia


"The term atheism is formed of the Greek prefix a- (meaning "without" or "not") and the Greek-derived theism, meaning a belief in a god (or gods). The literal meaning of the term is therefore without a belief in a god or gods, making any person who does not believe in the existence of a god or gods an atheist -- including both those who believe that no god exists and those who do not take a position on the existence of god(s).

However, in common usage, "atheism" is the denial of the existence of god(s), or the position that the concept of god is nonsensical or meaningless. And the term agnosticism (coined by T.H. Huxley in 1869) is the claim that the existence of god(s) cannot be decided, either because there is not a preponderence of evidence, or because the question is inherently undecidable, and that therefore one must suspend judgement, possibly indefinitely"


So, from your source you omitted the next line. Why did you do this? You are, therefore, charged with intellectual dishonesty and dismissed.

As for the "big bang theory", a theory is defined as "an unproven assumption". Yes, I have heard of it, BTW. Like most of us, I read "A brief history of time" and Hawkings explanation of the creation of matter and the universe.

[titey]

Originally posted by hobbes@16 August 2003 - 22:41
a theory is defined "an unproven assumption".

So then belief in god is a theory then?

So it should be called the "Catholic Theory" or the "Christian Theory" - no?


*sigh*

[titey]

No, I wasn&#39;t repeating myself to try and prove a point... it&#39;s just that this board HATES ME&#33;&#33;&#33;

[hobbes]

Originally posted by titey@17 August 2003 - 04:46
No, I wasn&#39;t repeating myself to try and prove a point... it&#39;s just that this board HATES ME&#33;&#33;&#33;

These are what we call "technical moments".

No,(in regard to the first post, not the quoted one) because a theory admits that the proposer is "talking out of his ass" and working on proof. The Catholic church hardly takes such a stance.

May I be of assistance in correcting your craniocerivcal mal-alignment. I&#39;m really good with torque&#33;

[titey]

Originally posted by hobbes@16 August 2003 - 22:51
No,(in regard to the first post, not the quoted one) because a theory admits that the proposer is "talking out of his ass" and working on proof.&nbsp; The Catholic church hardly takes such a stance.

Just because the Catholic church won&#39;t admit they&#39;re talking out their asses doesn&#39;t mean they&#39;re not. (That is when they&#39;re not violating someone else&#39;s ass.)

According to your definition of a theory:

a theory is defined "an unproven assumption".

belief in god would then be a theory... since there is no proof... only an assumption... regardless of whether you wish to call that assumption "faith".

[Powdered Water]

Originally posted by titey@17 August 2003 - 04:00

Just because the Catholic church won&#39;t admit they&#39;re talking out their asses doesn&#39;t mean they&#39;re not. (That is when they&#39;re not violating someone else&#39;s ass.)

Thank you titey&#33; Is this thread closed now or is this gonna go on all night?
Because I have some valuable information on this subject.

[hobbes]

Originally posted by titey+17 August 2003 - 05:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (titey @ 17 August 2003 - 05:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@16 August 2003 - 22:51
No,(in regard to the first post, not the quoted one) because a theory admits that the proposer is "talking out of his ass" and working on proof. The Catholic church hardly takes such a stance.

Just because the Catholic church won&#39;t admit they&#39;re talking out their asses doesn&#39;t mean they&#39;re not. (That is when they&#39;re not violating someone else&#39;s ass.)

According to your definition of a theory:

a theory is defined "an unproven assumption".

belief in god would then be a theory... since there is no proof... only an assumption... regardless of whether you wish to call that assumption "faith". [/b][/quote]
Yes, most devout religious fanatics, interchangablely refer to their beliefs as "assumptions".

Titey, I can&#39;t keep up, my endurance is fading. I have three DVDs to watch: Blair Witch Project, The Fog, and 13th Warrior. I may have to concede this discussion to you, drink beer and stare blankly at my TV.

[Petri]

Originally posted by hobbes@17 August 2003 - 06:41
So, from your source you omitted the next line.&nbsp; Why did you do this?

Because the "common usage" of the word is inaccurate.

As for the "big bang theory", a theory is defined "an unproven assumption".

Well, you wanted an explanation and that&#39;s the best science can give you at the moment.

[titey]

Originally posted by hobbes@16 August 2003 - 23:15
Titey, I can&#39;t keep up, my endurance is fading. I have three DVDs to watch: Blair Witch Project, The Fog, and 13th Warrior. I may have to concede this discussion to you, drink beer and stare blankly at my TV.

No concession necessary... we can always continue when your schedule is less demanding.