Rarred or Unrarred?

[SaviouR]

both have their advantages and disadvantages tho i personally prefer unrared .

the only problem is that incase the file gets corrupted u gotta download the whole thing again which would be a pain . this is where rar files really help .

but one thing i cant understand that why the scene still opts for rar and zip small apps ? way too much unnecessary compressions used for small apps of 5-10 mb softwares . its basically just the .exe file , crack/keygen file and the .nfo but still both rar and zip compressions used for them .

[stoi]

I have to agree with that one, i hate the way they do that with apps, and i think that way we can do without.

I used to extract every single one indibidually and it was a right pain, now though i just selct the lot and unrar here and it works a treat lol

[Tokeman]

I don't know if they are 'scene' apps or not, but I HATE the multi rar each inside its own rar, all inside yet another rar. WTF is up with that crap?!? I've seen it more and more lately...

[Wildclaw]

I don't think the sceners would want to sacrifice their own security (FTP uses SSL, while Bittorrent only offers PE) for their file's integrity (Bittorrent checks for errors, while FTP doesn't).

Yup, I know. That last part was kind of half joking.

It is too bad that ftp (and http) doesn't have any strong error detection built into them. The error detection in tcp and underlying layers is simply too weak and prone to error when dealing with large amounts of data transfer. Even allowing a single error to slip by is too much.

[jayz707]

my personal preference is unrared. IMHO bittorrent don't need rared stuff... its just a waste of electricity.

[Wildclaw]

Bittorrent error checking is NOT 100% fool proof. Just because you have never seen it happen, does not mean it does not happen.

This isn't some weak 32bit crc32 checksum we are talking about. It is a strong 160bit (1.46×10^48 combinations) sha checksum. If your bittorrent client has checked the file(s) and says that it is correct, it means that it is a byte for byte replica of the file(s) that the torrent file was created on.

If you have completed a bittorrent download with an incorrect file, there are two reasons, neither which you can blaim on the bittorrent protocol.

First, Your bittorrent client didn't actually check the files to see that they are correct. This is easily detected by right clicking a torrent and selecting force recheck. If the completed percentage changes from 100% to something else, that is what happened. As bittorrent clients automatically checks anything downloaded, the reason for this happening is most likly a combination of a bad hard drive (buy a new one quickly before the old one crashes completly) and having turned off double checking after download is completed (which is an automatic forced recheck).

More likely however, you did the above and it is still at 100%. In that case there is only one explanation. The incorrect file was already incorrect when the torrent file was created. The creator should have made sure that the file was correct before creating the torrent file.

Ok, I admit, I am ignoring the possibility that you won the national lottery several times in a row, and fate now wants to even things out.

[stoi]

so how come i seen it happen not 2 weeks ago like i have said 3 times in this god for saken post now.

Uploader rared a torrent. he tested it, he extracted it, he made the torrent, he hash checked it, it got to 100%, he uploaded it. members snatched it, so got to 100% and were seeding.

They went to unrar it, and it wouldnt unrar for any of them, never mind 1 or 2.

so he unrared it again and it unrared fine.

so it cant be that good (and this isnt just a 1 off either, its happened to me personally on more than 5 occasions over the past 4 years), and we must see this on our tracker at least 20 times a year.

[Krvaric]

a small paste from: The iso rules agreed upon by CIFE, RiSCiSO, and RAZOR ISO.


7. All RAR's will be listed as ".001 -> .0xx" as opposed to ".RAR ->
.RXX", for the directory listing's sake. RAR is the official standard.


Section III: Archive Creation
The fastest and most efficient archive program is RAR. Once you have used
CDRwin to create your .bin and .cue files, or EZ-CD Pro to create an .iso
file (*** see note above), then you want to use RAR or WinRAR to break up
the image file into workable pieces that can easily be spread on the
Internet. If you try and upload a 700 meg single file to an FTP site,
you're going to have trouble. If your connection dies in the middle of
the connection, you're screwed. Some FTP programs have resume features,
but it usually doesn't work, therefore we advocate using RAR. You can find
shareware versions of RAR and WinRAR by searching the web, it is available
everywhere.

Here are the rules for using RAR:

-- If possible, use the maximum available compression. However, if you
are racing a release, or you simply don't have the time to wait for
maximum compression, then use default to light compression. This all
depends on how much time you have available to sit around. Higher
compression will save a LOT of hard drive space, but it can take a very
LONG time, even on a fast Pentium-II processor with 64 megs of ram.

-- Use 15 megabyte segment splits. Thus, you want to break that 700 meg
.bin file into smaller pieces, each of size 15 megabytes.

-- Turn *OFF* solid archive mode. In both WinRAR and DOS RAR, solid
archive mode is defaulted on. You must go into preferences and turn it
off. For DOS RAR you must turn solid mode off as well by using the menu
options or command-line options. In either case, be sure that you are not
creating a solid archive, because if you do, the FTP sites will not be
able to test the CRC integrity of each of the individual 15 meg segment
file.
-- Include the .bin, .cue, (or .iso) and "risciso.nfo" inside the RAR
archive. Be sure that you have filled out the risciso.nfo file to include
all of the details of the release, including how many CD-ROM discs it is,
a general description of the program, any necessary OEM or serial numbers,
and any other details you like (keyboard shortcuts, game hints, web site
to see screen-shots, etc).

the way it is and the way it always will be.

[Swift]

I like them unrared but then again I don`t really care about who they are

[kondrae]

i sometimes use Dziobas Player to play rar'd movies
that way you can preview/stream without unpacking