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    Quote Originally Posted by lynx View Post
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    Because they took it, that's why. The same as every piece of land on this planet was taken by force from one country or another.

    Who's water, food, or fuel it was is of little consequence...

    It's understandable why the Palestinians want it back, but they're gonna have to take it. Sucker punches aren't going to do it though.
    Okay then, you seem to be suggesting that might is right.
    In that case stop criticising the Palestinians if they are trying to take those resources back by force.
    Think it through next time.
    Think what through?

    You need to read my commentary again it seems. I never criticized the Palestinians for anything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skizo View Post
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    Okay then, you seem to be suggesting that might is right.
    In that case stop criticising the Palestinians if they are trying to take those resources back by force.
    Think it through next time.
    Think what through?

    You need to read my commentary again it seems. I never criticized the Palestinians for anything.
    you say same thing to everyone?


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    I didn't say it wasn't a Jewish state, It primarily is, the same way as the UK is considered Christian. However like Britain it isn't exclusively one, I think it's something like 75-80% Jewish.

    That's not my point though. My point, as I said before, was that you referred to Jews and Arabs, referring to one by their religion and one by their geographical origin. Which suggests that it's a religious issue for you and that you are an anti-semite.

    Why not refer to Israeli's and Arabs, or Jews and Muslims.

    I really couldn't care less, I'm just telling you how it comes across to me when I read it, others may or may not be the same.
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    the Israeli state was established in order to prevent another holocaust from occuring.
    about 17% of Israel population are muslims, rapidly multiplying.
    ilw, the Jewish people don't say they are a "race", you are a fool.
    I know you have been taught things, but just look at the facts.
    Jews who came here in the 19th and 20th century bought many lands here, did the impossible and turned the desert into modern and successful cities etc. In 1948 many of the arabs who where still here, where told by the other arabs nations to get out of Israel, and after the war, which they will start on Israel, these arabs will return back to a place that will be belong to them. Israel defeted them and won the war. Israel offered many territories to the so called palestenians but they refused, wanting all of Israel, not peace. As Golda Meir, former israel prime minister, said: "we will have peace with the arabs when they love their children more than they hate us". There is no use of talking to you cuz your mind is set already. Israel want peace, thats a fact, peace = living. Arabs want Israel = they want war = death = Shaheed as your have been taught, be a shaheed and go to heaven, right?

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    the conflict in that region in regard to "Israel" is Arab Vs Jews cuz Arabs dont recognize Israel so they call them jew/Zionist, and FYI Arabs aren't only Muslims so it isn't only Muslims disliking "Israel".


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    the Israeli state was established in order to prevent another holocaust from occuring.
    yeh i can clearly see another Holocaust not coming in way.

    about 17% of Israel population are Muslims, rapidly multiplying.
    ...which Government over there is trying its best to prevent exceeding their number by not giving new born's Israel citizenship and many similar tactics including sending back to occupied lands.

    ilw, the Jewish people don't say they are a "race", you are a fool.
    yeh right

    I know you have been taught things, but just look at the facts.
    England and race talks, forget about it.

    Jews who came here in the 19th and 20th century bought many lands here, did the impossible and turned the desert into modern and successful cities etc. In 1948 many of the arabs who where still here, where told by the other arabs nations to get out of Israel, and after the war, which they will start on Israel, these arabs will return back to a place that will be belong to them. Israel defeted them and won the war. Israel offered many territories to the so called palestenians but they refused, wanting all of Israel, not peace. As Golda Meir, former israel prime minister, said: "we will have peace with the arabs when they love their children more than they hate us". There is no use of talking to you cuz your mind is set already. Israel want peace, thats a fact, peace = living. Arabs want Israel = they want war = death = Shaheed as your have been taught, be a shaheed and go to heaven, right?
    give me a break...
    you fought your way with support of America and OCCUPIED land and then took most commercial areas and offered arabs dead lands usefull for nothing. for god sake there are millions now living in Lebanon and Jordan and many other countries and Israel aint agreeing to let them return back, there are people older then jews state it self still caring keys to their homes waiting to return.
    you say jews bought lands, from who? jews already there?
    they modernized those areas, what you think Arabs couldn't do that? its called revolution which comes step by step.


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    u see, u don't believe anything i say, whats the point of arguing with you?
    your parents taught you things
    jews bought lands from arabs who where here, and no, that doesn't mean that only arabs where here.
    i don't really care about those arabs who keep their keys, they don't care about me neither.
    and about modernizing areas, look on other places in the world, but not 60 years ago, but 2000-3000 years ago, thats how Israel looked like before the Jews came here and developed this place, when the arabs came to Israel, they robbed the Holy places and everything else. Now i assume you will say that everything i said isn't true, thats why i'll try not to comment here anymore cuz its a wast of time.
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    torrentt - fair enough, a quick google tells me that jews apparently don't like being called a race. I was previously under the impression that things like the maternal inheritance of religion and lack of proselytisation were designed to maintain some sort of racial lineage, but apparently not...

    The terms "Jewish state" and "homeland of the Jewish people" are used to describe the State of Israel[1][2][3][4][5][6] and refer to its status as a nation-state for the Jewish people. The phrase "national home for the Jewish people" has evolved over the years since it originated and was used in official documents such as the Balfour Declaration of 1917. The concept of a national homeland for the Jewish people is enshrined in Israeli national policy and reflected in many of Israel's public institutions. The concept was codified in the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel on 14 May 1948 as well as in the Law of Return, which was passed by the Knesset on 5 July 1950, and stated "Every Jew has the right to come to this country as an oleh."
    Citizenship and use of state land (i.e. a lot of Israel) is also discriminatory based on religion

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    Quote Originally Posted by BawA View Post
    the conflict in that region in regard to "Israel" is Arab Vs Jews cuz Arabs dont recognize Israel so they call them jew/Zionist, and FYI Arabs aren't only Muslims so it isn't only Muslims disliking "Israel".
    Yes and it's not only Jews who are Israeli's so it's not a reasonable position to take. If they don't recognise Israel then they don't recognise the State, not just the Jewish people who live in it.

    You make it a religious issue, not a political one when you say thing like that. Which makes you look like a bigot. You look even worse when you take offence when someone suggests that all Arabs are Muslim (which is exactly the same as what you are doing, so you must see how it is offensive.)
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    u see, u don't believe anything i say, whats the point of arguing with you?
    your parents taught you things
    jews bought lands from arabs who where here, and no, that doesn't mean that only arabs where here.
    i don't really care about those arabs who keep their keys, they don't care about me neither.
    and about modernizing areas, look on other places in the world, but not 60 years ago, but 2000-3000 years ago, thats how Israel looked like before the Jews came here and developed this place, when the arabs came to Israel, they robbed the Holy places and everything else. Now i assume you will say that everything i said isn't true, thats why i'll try not to comment here anymore cuz its a wast of time.
    you dont suggest that 3000 years ago they should had skyscrapers, do you?
    they may bought some lands but not all which are occupied, just admit it that you got your so called Jewish homeland by help of clans which you call them terrorist these days. your blood is blood but arab bloods which is being dropped these days to get their land back is water, right?

    JP where you got the feeling that i take it offensive about arabs not being only muslims?

    thats why i'll try not to comment here anymore cuz its a wast of time.
    there goes second
    bring it on third one.
    Last edited by BawA; 08-04-2008 at 04:14 PM.


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