Smoking In Public

[gaz_k]

hey, the exhaust fumes can't be that good considering there a big hole up in the ozone.
if they not a problem why is your company car tax worked out from the value of you car and the amount of co2 emmisions it gives out?

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by lynx@18 August 2003 - 16:34
@ 3GN: then kindly get that gas guzzling monster off the road.
I take it you haven't seen the smog over London, NewYork, Los Angeles etc. Oh, of course, it is tobacco smoke.

if you refer to the car in my sig, it's on a private track (the nordschleife to be exact)

if you refer to the car i drive, then it's a 1.4 litre ford escort...hardly a gas guzzler

also, pollution isn't only caused by cars...industry as well

[3rd gen noob]

co2 doesn't attack the ozone layer

a well-tuned car doesn't do any appreciable damage to the ozone layer (even in high numbers)

[lynx]

On a private track ? That doesn't stop it producing polution.

But isn't that just like a private business ? Your convoluted logic amazes me.

Edit: typo

[titey]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@18 August 2003 - 10:30
pollution should not be allowed...

When you fart, your ass expells methane...

Methane is a pollutant...

Your ass should not be allowed.

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by lynx@18 August 2003 - 16:48
On a private track ? That doesn't stop it producing polution.

But isn't that just like a private business ? Your convoluted logic amazes me.

Edit: typo

the nordschleife is surrounded by trees..therefore the cars are "feeding" the trees

also, the nordschleife is private land, so if you can smoke in your own house, you can drive on your own track...

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by titey@18 August 2003 - 16:58
When you fart, your ass expells methane...

Methane is a pollutant...

Your ass should not be allowed.

cows produce more methane than humans...therefore we should exterminate all cows

[gaz_k]

isn't carbon dioxide a cause of acid rain and a green house gas?
there fore it does effect the ozone

and yes a well tuned car gives of a lot more:
it has an engine which goes to higher revs than most
those revs are mainted at high levels for longer
most will be bigger than your 1400 escort and so make more
they have a different configuration, for example most normal carboretors will do 50:50 mix fuel to air, race cars have a higher mix of fuel n less air
most race cars wont have a catalytic converter as they slow aair flow from engine and thus hinder performance

all this leads to higher co2 emmisions mate.
and i did not say about your car, i stated company cars on a whole.

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by gaz_k@18 August 2003 - 17:00
isn't carbon dioxide a cause of acid rain and a green house gas?
there fore it does effect the ozone

and yes a well tuned car gives of a lot more:
it has an engine which goes to higher revs than most
those revs are mainted at high levels for longer
most will be bigger than your 1400 escort and so make more
they have a different configuration, for example most normal carboretors will do 50:50 mix fuel to air, race cars have a higher mix of fuel n less air
most race cars wont have a catalytic converter as they slow aair flow from engine and thus hinder performance

all this leads to higher co2 emmisions mate.
and i did not say about your car, i stated company cars on a whole.

the ozone layer is a thin layer of ozone (funny that), which is 03 (3 atoms of oxygen per molecule)

co2 doesn't attack the ozone layer, therefore cars don't depreciate the ozone layer directly.
although some cars do produce quantities of sulphur dioxide which does do damage, however a well-tuned car doesn't produce high volumes of this

p.s. by a well-tuned car i'm not talking about a ned in a little nova with a big exhaust, i'm talking about one which has regular services and is running in good shape.

p.p.s just because someone has a modified car doesn't mean they drive it at higher revs, therefore modifying your car doesn't necessarily cause mroe harm to environment...

edit: whilst driving in los angeles, a porsche 911 turbo (993 or 996) gives off cleaner air than it takes in

[titey]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@18 August 2003 - 11:00
cows produce more methane than humans...therefore we should exterminate all cows

According to your premise - YES.

You made the blanket statement that "pollution should not be allowed".