Smoking In Public

[hobbes]

Originally posted by titey+19 August 2003 - 03:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (titey &#064; 19 August 2003 - 03:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@18 August 2003 - 20:04
As for restaurants, why should I be limited in where I want to eat because you can&#39;t control your need to smoke. Smoke not only dampens the sense of taste but also stinks up clothing. In my line of work it would be highly inappropriate to see customers while reeking of smoke. I do not infringe on your enjoyment of your meal, so why should you be allowed to do this to me? Smoke outside or in your car (if it is cold).

Why should business establishments cater only to your wishes and ban smoking?
It should be up to the business itself whether or not to allow smoking.
I choose which places to patronize by their smoking policy - why can&#39;t you?[/b][/quote]

What you do in your home is your business. What you do in public affects the people around you.

I think with Pizza Hut banning smoking, it means that people have spoken up and declared it an unwanted intrusion on their lunch. I tend to chose my eating establishments on the quality of the food. Smoking has nothing to do with eating. It is like deciding on a restaurant due to the color of its sign. Neither has any bearing on what makes a restaurant enjoyable, it&#39;s the food baby.

When I drink alcohol, I do not pour it on you. Why should you get to stink up my clothes with smoke? You want to wash my jacket for me?

I agree with the premise that an establishment should have the right to decide this and I believe they are by banning smoking.

I tend you enjoy farting through a megaphone at meals end, you want to deal with that? You tend to think that since smoking has traditionally been allowed that is ok to blow noxious smoke over someone while they eat. How could you be so uncaring of others.

[titey]

Originally posted by hobbes+18 August 2003 - 21:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hobbes &#064; 18 August 2003 - 21:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>What you do in your home is your business.&nbsp; What you do in public affects the people around you.[/b]

Yes, and the people who eat in the same restaurants as I do choose to do so. No one forces them to eat there.

Originally posted by hobbes@18 August 2003 - 21:21
I think with Pizza Hut banning smoking, it means that people have spoken up and declared it an unwanted intrusion on their lunch.&nbsp; I tend to chose my eating establishments on the quality of the food.&nbsp; Smoking has nothing to do with eating.&nbsp; It is like deciding on a restaurant due to the color of its sign. Neither has any bearing on what makes a restaurant enjoyable, it&#39;s the food baby.

As I said, if the establishment decides they don&#39;t want to allow smoking - fine - I won&#39;t go there. And if dining out were entirely about the food, then why do restaurants seem intent on providing music, artwork, etc., etc.? Seems to be an attempt to create... I dunno... an "experience". After eating, Having a cup of coffee or a beer while smoking and chatting are an enjoyable part of the experience as well.

Originally posted by hobbes@18 August 2003 - 21:21
When I drink alcohol, I do not pour it on you.&nbsp; Why should you get to stink up my clothes with smoke?&nbsp; You want to wash my jacket for me?

I don&#39;t blow my smoke on you either. Why are you sitting in the smoking section anyway?

Originally posted by hobbes@18 August 2003 - 21:21
I agree with the premise that an establishment should have the right to decide this and I believe they are by banning smoking.

Fine - just don&#39;t whine about those who don&#39;t.

Originally posted by hobbes@18 August 2003 - 21:21
I tend you enjoy farting through a megaphone at meals end

No, I don&#39;t tend to do that... I don&#39;t even own a megaphone.

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You tend to think that since smoking has traditionally been allowed that is ok to blow noxious smoke over someone while they eat.&nbsp; How could you be so uncaring of others.[/quote]
I wait till the other people in my party are finished eating before lighting up. And I don&#39;t blow smoke in anyone&#39;s direction. If my exhaled smoke wafts around the room, then so be it... that&#39;s why it&#39;s called the smoking section.

[clocker]

Geez Hobbes.

That&#39;s a megaphone in your pocket?

All this time I thought you were just glad to see me.

[hobbes]

Yeah, it just doesn&#39;t stay there, otherwise there would be no problem. If I were to visit restaurants with smoking sections that did not permeate the room, I would not be here complaining.

If you like to go somewhere because the bathroom has brass knobs, that is your issue. Restaurants that can&#39;t cut the mustard with quality food, tend to distract with gimmicks. I&#39;m not into that, as I am not mesmerized by baubles and lights.

I would encourage you to go to the "bar" for your post-repast contemplation, although Denny&#39;s doesn&#39;t have the best selection of beer.

I simply want to eat without someone intruding upon my repast. Is that so wrong, for the love of God, is that so wrong&#33;

Titey, are we the only ones here? The silence is deafening.

[hobbes]

I guess it all boils down to courtesy. I would not go out to a public place and perform an act that would degrade the experience for other paying customers, simply for my own selfish pleasure. Why do you want to numb my taste buds and ruin my meal?

It seems a bit paternalistic that places actually have to tell you not to do things that bother other patrons. Seems you could figure this out on your own an act accordingly. This is why I don&#39;t take off my pants and sit around in my boxers (or titey whities) after a good meal.

[hobbes]

Originally posted by clocker@19 August 2003 - 04:03
Geez Hobbes.

That&#39;s a megaphone in your pocket?

All this time I thought you were just glad to see me.

At most fine restaurants you can order a megaphone "a la carte".

What is in my pocket is another matter.

[Powdered Water]

I for one think smoking your pubes is a bad idea.

[titey]

Originally posted by hobbes@18 August 2003 - 22:17
This is why I don&#39;t take off my pants and sit around in my boxers (or titey whities) after a good meal.

You mean you wear PANTS when you go out to eat?

Damn, you are a gentleman then&#33;

[MagicNakor]

Smoking&#39;s been banned in all public establishments (inside malls, diners, etc.) for a few years now here. At first the smokers raised a big hue and cry about how the laws were infringing on their "right" to smoke. But the smoking population is a minority, and while not all of the smokers are happy about it, they all&#39;ve accepted it. The workers at bars and restaurants are much happier; they don&#39;t have to be exposed to vast clouds of smoke day after day. Plus the experience is so much nicer now that the air isn&#39;t blue and the food doesn&#39;t taste like smoke.

[titey]

Originally posted by Powdered Water@18 August 2003 - 22:22
I for one think smoking your pubes is a bad idea.

Having someone else smoke your pubes is a bit painful as well. >_<

(Eh lilmiss?)