*YQZ thinks Duckater is so cool because he types in orange
*YQZ thinks Duckater is so cool because he types in orange
Damn Straight.
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Well...there's only one thing I'm waiting for in this whole business. It's when Rachel gets taken down and we find out which of the following 'she' really is:
1. A hairy man.
2. A very hairy man.
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That is a very intelligent post.Originally Posted by YQZ
http://xkcd.com/322/
These ignorant posts have made the ideas posed by RachelFaith and others from vortexnetwork seem to be almost plausible. What they are doing directly contradicts how every torrent site each one of you loves so dearly does business - the community has to decide if they want this. The community will see where VN plans to go, and the community will decide it doesn't want that. Without members, any ideas they have are insignificant.
People are free to support small private sites. Large public sites. And all points in between. They are free to support sites that pay for VIP or who don't. They supports sites with free leech torrents or they don't.
It's the internet... and that means any fool can make a post and get other fools to think it is true.
Rachel Faith
"In The Eye Of The Storm"
No surprises.
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Unfortunately, you prove this to be true. And I hope there aren't many of the other fools...
they didn't built Rome in one day
A discussion not a debate.
That is what I shall be doing. In a debate, sides present their case and then some other party gets to decide. In a discussion, both sides can present their case and then that is that. They are each understood. But there is not the presumption that persuasion will occur.
I know this “debate” has been around for longer than p2p. I know the roots run deep and no one post can persuade those whose minds are already made up. Thus, this is a discussion. Feel free to discuss for as long as you wish. Feel free to ‘debate’ if you wish. Know that I am not interested in debate.
With that being said, let me make the brief introduction and outline the points I hope to present. There are many issues, and not all of them are even related, so keeping this as a discussion not a debate, allows the latitude to include all the points being raised even if some are not germane.
The list of points:
P2L is bad, impure, and somehow against the spirit of something greater. It makes others (those who pay not seed) who are for this reason not as good as others (those who see seeding as the ultimate sign) equal.
Yeah, it does exactly that. It says, just because you seed and do not donate, you are not better than someone who donates and does not seed as much as you. If you are offended by the equality of the two different ways in which status can be obtained, that is your personal feeling. But a feeling is not a fact. Choose to act upon a feeling and not a fact, and you act irrationally. That is also a fact.
The fact is, we fully declare that there is no superiority between those who seed and those who donate. None. We are neutral, unbiased and blind to any such thought, rejecting totally and without repentance the notion that seeders are “better” than “donors”.
That this is a point of contention for those who would like to think they are better than someone else – because their way is pure – is a very old elitist mentality which we fully intend to eradicate. In short such thinking is beyond bullshit, and the mark of juvenile thinking and weak egos who cannot bear the thought that they are not superior to someone else.
Rachel Faith Anderson
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Last edited by Guest24; 07-27-2008 at 08:56 PM.
The problem is you bait-and-switched people into thinking you were creating a Brokenstones replacement. A wonderful haven for people who were left in the dust after BS went down. A new small mac tracker running on a fantastic codebase.
But instead, but INSTEAD, you decided to shit all over it with your completely pompous and arrogant ideas --- and let me ask you -- what are you standing on? You're standing on NOTHING. If the PirateBay did this, if What.CD started talking about new ideas for bittorrent and making change and creating a giant front for bittorrent ... it would be different. They have established themselves. They know what they're doing and they've proven it.
But you're the idiot who can't figure out how to change her root password. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5064391
Your staff is starting a mutiny against you and you don't even know it. You put lofty quotes in the face of everyone who criticizes you while you are being mocked and derided.
The sooner you are off the internet, the better we will all be.
Rachel Faith Anderson, you are the official captain of the failboat. Congratulations.
What's creeping me out even more now is how much her quotes, as shown by Guest24, are so cult-like. (referring back to the original 'message' post of hers)
And the whole "everyone is equal, there are no 'Very Important People'" line... if anyone actually took offense to the fact that someone who pays on a tracker is called a "VIP" then they are sad, sad human beings indeed.
The Religion of Rachel Faith. No Seeders or Leechers. Only People. Join now for P2P enlightenment.
EDIT: You're absolutely right. They're finding contradictions. It's just her posts that are "we love the leader".
Last edited by EvanUnisil; 07-27-2008 at 09:02 PM.
Phoenix Wright :D
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I thought Guest24 was finding contradictions in Rachel's statements; guess I wasn't paying attention
I am a exsellent speller and I use grammer very good.
NANANANANA LEADER!
She's a republican, that's what they do, manipulate weak minded people into joining their cause (and make money while doing it). That is what users who use this site in the end will be, weak minded, manipulated users. Other sites will emerge, that is the beauty of the bittorrent community - and I urge users to put "taking down the site" into their own hands, by moving to another choice, not by calling on a stupid DDoS that in the end won't do much. Without users, a bittorent site is nothing.
Last edited by YQZ; 07-27-2008 at 09:19 PM.
Suit up!
With a site that's down, there are no users
NANANANANA LEADER!
She's a republican, that's what they do, manipulate weak minded people into joining their cause (and make money while doing it). That is what users who use this site in the end will be, weak minded, manipulated users. Other sites will emerge, that is the beauty of the bittorrent community - and I urge users to put "taking down the site" into their own hands, by moving to another choice, not by calling on a stupid DDoS that in the end won't do much. Without users, a bittorent site is nothing.
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