It seems that a lot of the animosity on the board seems to stem on the issue of traders, I thought that I would throw my two cents in, and before anyone shoots me down, I did use the search function
For me, as a person who doesn't trade, I think trading goes against my morals. And for those of you who think the statement above is a bit too serious for filesharingtalk.com forums then I plead with you to read on.
I am going to start off by addressing the why question. Why do people trade? For me its easy, people trade for one of two reasons
A. Its the only way to obtain trackers they are legitimately interested in
B. Its the only way to discover and obtain higher level trackers that are 1337
A lot of people regard statement B as a e-penis showing. Its hard to imagine somebody actually logging on everyday, browse the forums, and just say to themselves......I'm the shit. And if you do that, go kill yourself. Anyway, I believe that everyone has an urge to see whats higher. You cant escape it because its human nature. Curiosity is the motive behind most traders. Nobody can sit here and tell me they don't want to browse UK-T, just to see what the site is like. That addresses B.
As for statement A, I actually somewhat feel sympathetic towards them. They actually want to use a tracker, feel they can contribute, but the only way to obtain them, for them, is by trading. This is a question answered by the following "stay active on the forums, make friends, contribute to the community". I ask, what if the only thing you are able to contribute is a demonoid code, or an IP Torrents invite. Its a tough position to be put in since trading is such a lure rather then waiting for 6-8 months and gaining a reputation. Its easy for people who are established to make futile comments about contribution when the only thing you can contribute is a lousy demonoid invite. Now others will say that making good threads and thorough posts will give you just as good as a reputation but again lets delve deeper. More than half the threads or posts here have to do with reputable tracker like FTN or SCT, and the others have to do with general bittorrent knowledge. How can you make an intellectual post when you have been using demonoid and/or a public tracker. You don't since you have absolutley no idea how other trackers work, ie. you have to have a decent ratio etc. So to say that all traders are evil, rule breakers, or the devils number is extremely unesscarry.
I also have a scenario to present. Lets say I start a tracker called TrackerA. Now while I make the rules for TrackerA, I decide to shake it up. My tracker actually allows trading. Now how many people will join my tracker? Exactly. Nobody. How is this relevant? Because even traders wouldn't join. That's funny, because we just found a middleground. Everyone wants the security of their account and personal ip to be in safe hands. Thats the middleground of filesharing, nobody wants to get fuck*d. Now if we could actually capitalize on the concept that nobody wants to be screwed and present that as I clear concept, I think we are well on are way to creating or improving trackers with better security, a more reliable userbase, and, best of all, seeing the amount of newbie traders decrease. Why do I say newbie traders? Becuase I really think that past traders are irrelevant at this point, they are beyond fixable for that matter. Why? Trading is like sex (for guys), you keep wanting it, and once you do it, there is no going back. Even some of you people who claim they are retired or learned better or changed your ways, you cannot be trusted. Deal with it.
This is my incomplete post about Trading, I will followup with another one that addresses non-traders, staff, and tracker views later.
For now, I have a poker-stars tourney to attend to
), you keep wanting it, and once you do it, there is no going back. Even some of you people who claim they are retired or learned better or changed your ways, you cannot be trusted. Deal with it.
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