should tracker staff get paid?

[danio]

Someone brought a point about paying uploaders, but don't they already get enough benefits?

- They get axx to site features (like logs, top ten list, usersearch) the very instant they are promoted to uploader.

- Some sites do provide long time uploaders with free scene axx or some other kwel package like cheaper box.

- If a site has a request invite feature, uploaders have higher chance of getting accepted then normal users do.

- A contributing uploader usually ends up being VIP or something alike.

- Their torrent gets bunch of thanks. FLSers or even staffers prolly don't get that much thanks as uploader do

Basically they are liked, thanked, and loved for what they like to do (that is upload to trackers) :-]

While this is true, you oversee the fact that the staff benefits from all of this and even more privilegies aswell. So the argument is still valid. If staff should get payed, so should uploaders etc.

[mrnobody]

While this is true, you oversee the fact that the staff benefits from all of this and even more privilegies aswell. So the argument is still valid. If staff should get payed, so should uploaders etc.

Staffer is a different case. Usualy, they don't upload torrentz u see.

Regardless, there is no need to pay a staffer as well. Nobody is forcing them to run a tracker or be part of it. If they won't do it, someone else will be more than happy to do it...voluntarily.

Beside, i doubt anyone that uses torrent does so for money. I mean, pirate = save money =\ earn money.

[pro267]

Regardless, there is no need to pay a staffer as well. Nobody is forcing them to run a tracker or be part of it. If they won't do it, someone else will be more than happy to do it...voluntarily.

While I agree that staffers should not get paid, I strongly object to the last part of that quote, and find it extremely disrespectful to staffers. Whether you realize it or not, most staffers work their asses off to keep the site alive and kicking for you, with nothing more than a will to contribute and a bit of gratitude from the members to motivate them to do that.

A huge amount of a tracker's success comes from the way the specific people staffing the site build and maintain it. In other words, the site wouldn't be the same without them. I'm not sure whether you meant it to sound that way, but the way I'm reading what you've said is that every staffer can simply fuck off and someone else will easily take his/her place, and to me that belittles the contribution of each staffer to the success of his/her site.

[DV8type]

Sorry DV8type but i do have to counter that.

How do you know that every site that does P2L (and what is P2L anyway?) is making a profit.

Well like i insinuated, hopefully the site owner is honest with staff. i would say 90% of current popular Pay2Leech sites make a profit from it. I dont want to go into details but it is well known and most that do are not ashamed of it.

P2L (and its variants) is a BUSINESS Model. If it is not making a profit they shouldnt do it. Since it is a business the employees should be paid. Just like a Six Flag theme park....

As per the "it would complicate the issue since its illegal." Too late for that. Staff is a target and the site is already making money. You think they are gonna say, "ohhh you didnt make any profit, ill let you off the hook." Nope. If your being used and abused might as well get a dollar from it.

[grimms]

I would first make sure costs go to the server first like various people already stated, but if anything is left over... sure a $10 spot here or $5 spot there would be well deserved I think but regular payment no.

[mrnobody]

Regardless, there is no need to pay a staffer as well. Nobody is forcing them to run a tracker or be part of it. If they won't do it, someone else will be more than happy to do it...voluntarily.

While I agree that staffers should not get paid, I strongly object to the last part of that quote, and find it extremely disrespectful to staffers. Whether you realize it or not, most staffers work their asses off to keep the site alive and kicking for you, with nothing more than a will to contribute and a bit of gratitude from the members to motivate them to do that.

A huge amount of a tracker's success comes from the way the specific people staffing the site build and maintain it. In other words, the site wouldn't be the same without them. I'm not sure whether you meant it to sound that way, but the way I'm reading what you've said is that every staffer can simply fuck off and someone else will easily take his/her place, and to me that belittles the contribution of each staffer to the success of his/her site.

Na, I didn’t mean to disrespect every staffer out there.

I was referring to the fact that there are people who are willing to step up and fill in for someone else. Like when <what’s her name?> introduced torrent as a business thingy, there were group of peeps who opened another tracker <insert name as I don’t exactly remember it> without self-interest or something alike.

editZ: ^ that might as well sound like a disrespect or something but by no mean i meant any disrespect...rather i suppose it's just the way i word it ekk.

[JROQuinn]

Why do you people worry so much about something that has no effect on you? When it comes to money, people start raving about who is getting what.

I am relieved that they dont get laid though

[saulin]

Well the original question sounded like. Should they get pay, as in should they get a salary. I just think it's a hobby and not a job.

However yeah if the donations are big and there is left over money why not share it between the staff

In fact, I do not doubt that it happens in some trackers.

[FuTuRe]

the short answer, no.

[cullen7282]

I don't see the big deal. They probably shouldn't rely on donations for a regular salary, but if they do really good and exceed what they needed I don't see the problem with "bonuses". As long as it's all straight and upfront, no one has a reason to bitch.
They put a lot of time into these sites, usually with no appreciation. Even worse than no appreciation is the crap and abuse they have to put up with from some members. I don't see a problem with a little bit of cash being distributed if they have some left over.