ESiR - Best HD Release group?

[Funkin']

I honestly do not see much of a difference. What is the difference that you guys are commenting on? All that I can see is that Esir's looks a little darker. But I'm not seeing this blur that makkienator commented on.

But yeah, as Player said, people are too picky. They both look nice and crisp and colorful.

[labuladuo]

wiki looks better because of sharpen filter,I'm sure ESiR is close to the source~

[wangyang]

wiki looks better because of sharpen filter,I'm sure ESiR is close to the source~

wiki you are?

[makkienator]

I honestly do not see much of a difference. What is the difference that you guys are commenting on? All that I can see is that Esir's looks a little darker. But I'm not seeing this blur that makkienator commented on.

But yeah, as Player said, people are too picky. They both look nice and crisp and colorful.

Just watch books in the picture, you'll be surprised how much ESiR is worser then WiKi. WiKi dont release as often as ESiR, people mostly think ESiR is best cause they release the most, more then scene groups, their quantity is top, but quality not.

[Unstable1]

ESiR is overated:

Meet.The.Robinsons.2007.720p.BluRay.DTS.x264-ESiR


so blur compared to

Meet.the.Robinsons.2007.BluRay.720p.x264.DTS-WiKi

Those frames are different. Look at the size of the eyes in each picture. The Wiki one has bigger eyes therefor it is a different frame.

[makkienator]

Yep, but you can still see the diference in quality, its obvious.

[Unstable1]

Yes, I can see a difference, that's true.

What are the respective filesizes of each rip and what are the bitrates?

I've had a look on both HDBits and BitHDTV and can't find the Wiki release of Meet the Robinsons on either site.

[makkienator]

Length: 94 Mins
Size: 4.37 GB
Source: BluRay
Subtitles: English
Video resolution: 1280x720
Video format: x264
Video bitrate: 6614
Video framerate: 23.976 fps
Audio format: DTS
Audio bitrate: 1536 kbps
Audio: English

It will be on bithdtv during this day.

[Unstable1]

Length: 94 Mins
Size: 4.37 GB
Source: BluRay
Subtitles: English
Video resolution: 1280x720
Video format: x264
Video bitrate: 6614
Video framerate: 23.976 fps
Audio format: DTS
Audio bitrate: 1536 kbps
Audio: English

It will be on bithdtv during this day.

Thanks for the info.

And this is the info for the ESIR release:

RELEASE.NAME..: Meet.The.Robinsons.2007.720p.BluRay.DTS.x264-ESiR
RELEASE.DATE..: 06.12.2007
THEATRE.DATE..: 23.3.2007 (UK - IMAX version)
RUNTiME.......: 1:34:30
SiZE..........: 4.06GB (Space left for an extra 448kbps soundtrack)
ViDEO.CODEC...: x264
FRAMERATE.....: 23.976
BiTRATE.......: 4638kbps
RESOLUTiON....: 1280x720 (16:9 full frame)
AUDiO.........: English DTS 5.1 1.5mbit
SUBTiTLES.....: English - ASS
SOURCE........: Meet the Robinsons Blu-ray 1080p AVC EU

I guess it's the video bitrate of the Wiki version that makes the difference (6614 vs 4638) although I'm no expert.

[Funkin']

^ Yeah, that's what it looks like. So maybe it is true the bigger the file size the better the quality? I don't know though, I'm not an expert either.

Just watch books in the picture, you'll be surprised how much ESiR is worser then WiKi. WiKi dont release as often as ESiR, people mostly think ESiR is best cause they release the most, more then scene groups, their quantity is top, but quality not.

You actually got me interested in Wiki's releases now, since I don't think I've downloaded many of theirs.(I usually grab Eureka's releases whenever I have the choice). I'm going to grab a copy of Meet the Robinson's from both groups(Wiki and Esir) and see how each look in motion. Unstable is right, those aren't the same frames, but Wiki's does look a little crisper and more vibrant. I wanna see them both in motion.

I'm glad you posted those.