If your Foetus is diagnosed with down syndrome do you Abort?

[1000possibleclaws]

If my partner had no input in the decision then I would definitely abort. I doubt I would be attached to a fetus that had a developmental problem enough to want to keep it and deal with the stress of raising the child. I am also pro-abortion if it's within a reasonable time after the pregnancy, which makes the decision easier and more straightforward.

In reality I wouldn't be 100% certain that we should choose this 'cause it wouldn't be solely my choice.

[Sanka113]

Honestly, I'd abort. Life can already suck for regular people. It'd only be magnified for them.

[Everose]

It's also a tremendous burden on the non developmentally disabled siblings, who usually wind up with the responsibility of taking care of their brother or sister once the parents pass. It's something potential parents need to take into account when wresting with this decision, because you're basically passing the responsibility onto your other children.

I'm not saying that should affect the decision one way or the other but it's something to consider.

Here in the united states mentally retarded people are not a burden on any siblings, families do not want these people, so they go to group and private homes, where families supossely take care of these people for more than $2500 a month each person, group homes take more money than private homes, (they are a big burden on taxpayers). Mentally retarded people go to day programs to spend the day, they get back home, they give them some food and there they go to their locked rooms till the next day, most times they tie them up, (something illegal in my state)so they will not bother anyone in the house or if they get violent. Is that a way to live?
We should know by genetic tests if the person is going to be mentaly challenge, so women could terminate a life of missery to someone that never asked to come to this world.
It is funny that here in this forum and everywhere else, men are against abortion, controling women has to end, this fanatic conservatives it reminds me of Saudi Arabia, Iran, afganistan, where they control women too. Women should decide, after all men will never get pregant.
It is not fair that mentally retarded people come to this world, and they are abused over and over.
That tax money should be well expend in other places in the United States.

To witness such abuse and not notify the authorities would be quite the load to carry.

I make it a habit to drop by the group home my step son is in at all times of day and if EVER I witnessed his or any other client's human rights being violated...........suffice it to say someone would have hell to pay.

And it is quite sadly twisted thinking, In my opinion, to assume families of mentally disabled children place them in group homes because they do not want them.

The hardest thing I ever did was to agree to place this young man in a group home as a young adult. But I knew it was the best for him in the long run to become independent of me and established in his own community. A community that he thrives in and has become very independent and vital and productive in.

I am very concerned about the conditions you describe in your place of employment and even more so that it is allowed to continue by those of you witnessing it and obviously remaining silent...basically allowing such conditions to continue.

The very, very least of the blessings this young man has brought into my life (and there have been so many blessings) is the ability to ascertain the state of the heart and soul of others when approached by him.

I realize that unless you have lived the blessings, the fear of what seems a horrendous task ahead would lead many to abort.

I would have to 'keep'.......because I have been there and it is worth it.

[pentomato]

Here in the united states mentally retarded people are not a burden on any siblings, families do not want these people, so they go to group and private homes, where families supossely take care of these people for more than $2500 a month each person, group homes take more money than private homes, (they are a big burden on taxpayers). Mentally retarded people go to day programs to spend the day, they get back home, they give them some food and there they go to their locked rooms till the next day, most times they tie them up, (something illegal in my state)so they will not bother anyone in the house or if they get violent. Is that a way to live?
We should know by genetic tests if the person is going to be mentaly challenge, so women could terminate a life of missery to someone that never asked to come to this world.
It is funny that here in this forum and everywhere else, men are against abortion, controling women has to end, this fanatic conservatives it reminds me of Saudi Arabia, Iran, afganistan, where they control women too. Women should decide, after all men will never get pregant.
It is not fair that mentally retarded people come to this world, and they are abused over and over.
That tax money should be well expend in other places in the United States.

To witness such abuse and not notify the authorities would be quite the load to carry.

I make it a habit to drop by the group home my step son is in at all times of day and if EVER I witnessed his or any other client's human rights being violated...........suffice it to say someone would have hell to pay.

And it is quite sadly twisted thinking, In my opinion, to assume families of mentally disabled children place them in group homes because they do not want them.

The hardest thing I ever did was to agree to place this young man in a group home as a young adult. But I knew it was the best for him in the long run to become independent of me and established in his own community. A community that he thrives in and has become very independent and vital and productive in.

I am very concerned about the conditions you describe in your place of employment and even more so that it is allowed to continue by those of you witnessing it and obviously remaining silent...basically allowing such conditions to continue.

The very, very least of the blessings this young man has brought into my life (and there have been so many blessings) is the ability to ascertain the state of the heart and soul of others when approached by him.

I realize that unless you have lived the blessings, the fear of what seems a horrendous task ahead would lead many to abort.

I would have to 'keep'.......because I have been there and it is worth it.

Who said I haven't done anything about it? but I did and I had to talk to investigators, anyway whatever comes out of that I may never know.
It is the same as old people and nursing homes, the elderly are a burden and they end up there.
I am not saying every family of the mentally retarded do not care, most times they can't care for them, because the disability is to much, and some of these people get out of control a lot.
In this city there are houndres of group homes around, and I hate when these people send them out without a coat in the winter and many more things, and yes I always do something about it.
I am glad you care.

[Everose]

I am glad you have stepped up then, and do your best to see others are treated as you yourself would like to be treated.

I don't know how lines can be drawn and as many have pointed out their are varying levels of disabilities.

I guess we all have only our own experiences with things to draw from.

When I am in a rest home I am sure to drive the workers crazy with my drag racing in my wheel chair in the halls. Don't be putting me down for that. ;-)

Remember any policies and laws you put into effect now will affect you also when you get there!!!

[pentomato]

Thank you very much, I will never be afraid of speaking out for those that need me, "Evil thrives when good people do nothing"
Been in a wheel chair or been old or mentally ill is not reason for anyone to abuse anyone, if those things bother anyone, they should not work doing those types of jobs, I know I will give them hell like around 30 more years lol.

[j2k4]

Thank you very much, I will never be afraid of speaking out for those that need me, "Evil thrives when good people do nothing"
Been in a wheel chair or been old or mentally ill is not reason for anyone to abuse anyone, if those things bother anyone, they should not work doing those types of jobs, I know I will give them hell like around 30 more years lol.

Now, was that so difficult?

My only point was if you feel the handicapped are being short-changed by the world they live in (but we control), then better to advocate (which I have done, and which you apparently are doing currently) in their favor than to abort them as a default stance.

Use your human capitol for something positive, you see?

Unless, of course, you are an absolutely horrible, uncreative, and inept advocate, in which case you have nothing to say to me, correct?

[pentomato]

Thank you very much, I will never be afraid of speaking out for those that need me, "Evil thrives when good people do nothing"
Been in a wheel chair or been old or mentally ill is not reason for anyone to abuse anyone, if those things bother anyone, they should not work doing those types of jobs, I know I will give them hell like around 30 more years lol.

Now, was that so difficult?

My only point was if you feel the handicapped are being short-changed by the world they live in (but we control), then better to advocate (which I have done, and which you apparently are doing currently) in their favor than to abort them as a default stance.

Use your human capitol for something positive, you see?

Unless, of course, you are an absolutely horrible, uncreative, and inept advocate, in which case you have nothing to say to me, correct?

Damn you j2k4 I was missing you man, how are you?
I know, to abort anyone it is a little extreme too, I know that.
If I was horrible my dear friend, I would not talk so much about the abuse, I prefer to go out of my way, putting my job in danger, but knowing that someone will be better because I did something about it.
Happy new year to you, I hope 2009 will be better than this one we are about to end.
Nice to see you again, happy new year.

[Brenya]

I chose abort because I'd first have a Pre-Implantation Genetic Diagnosis done on the embryo. The major chromosome-level genetic disorders (like Down Syndrome) can be identified, and in the embryo there are only a few cells, so I really don't understand any non-religious, non-monetary reason not to have this done.

[100%]

Breakthrough in Prenatal Screening for Down Syndrome

January 29th, 2009 by Femina
Lenetix Announces Successful Study of Improved Non-invasive Test Procedure
Lenetix, Inc. announced a significant step in the development of an improved first and second trimester non-invasive fetal chromosomal screening test to detect Down syndrome and other genetic fetal conditions. Lenetix presented preliminary study results at the 29th annual Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine Conference in San Diego that indicate a potential breakthrough in testing quality and accuracy while preserving the safety of mother and fetus.
The maternal serum test developed by Lenetix medical director Dr. Stephen A. Brown at the University of Vermont incorporates the use of methylation-sensitive amplification (MSA) of fetal nucleic acid markers. In the preliminary studies, more than ten clinical plasma specimens of various ethnicities provided by clinical partners were tested with clinical partners using the MSA approach developed by Dr. Brown. Data from pilot studies indicate that highly accurate screening for common fetal autosomal (Trisomy 18, 21) and sex chromosomal (47, XXY) chromosome abnormalities is feasible, particularly in the first trimester of pregnancy when MSA features of early pregnancy-derived cells can be leveraged. This approach affords diagnostic confirmation by CVS, an invasive first trimester procedure, or genetic amniocentesis in the early 2nd trimester.
"The technique described by Dr. Brown and his team at Lenetix will create a revolution in prenatal diagnosis," said study investigator Allan Fisher, M.D., FACOG, FACMG. "This testing will ultimately decrease the number of amniocenteses, and thus reduce the number of miscarriages caused by amniocenteses. It will also help us identify patients who will need an amniocentesis or CVS where we may have missed them before. A better test that produces fewer false positives and negatives drives better patient care, and that's exciting for the future."
"Our preliminary results are extraordinarily encouraging, and complement nicely the work of other investigators whose efforts have focused heretofore in the 2nd trimester," said Lenetix president and CEO Leonard H. Kellner. "Such breakthroughs in improvements of current maternal serum screening for fetal aneuploidy, including fetal Down syndrome, will lead to better quality of screening and most certainly will result in less unnecessary, invasive diagnostic testing."
Source: Lenetix, Inc.