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Thread: If your Foetus is diagnosed with down syndrome do you Abort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100% View Post
    Breakthrough in Prenatal Screening for Down Syndrome

    January 29th, 2009 by Femina
    Lenetix Announces Successful Study of Improved Non-invasive Test Procedure
    Lenetix, Inc. announced a significant step in the development of an improved first and second trimester non-invasive fetal chromosomal screening test to detect Down syndrome and other genetic fetal conditions. Lenetix presented preliminary study results at the 29th annual Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine Conference in San Diego that indicate a potential breakthrough in testing quality and accuracy while preserving the safety of mother and fetus.
    The maternal serum test developed by Lenetix medical director Dr. Stephen A. Brown at the University of Vermont incorporates the use of methylation-sensitive amplification (MSA) of fetal nucleic acid markers. In the preliminary studies, more than ten clinical plasma specimens of various ethnicities provided by clinical partners were tested with clinical partners using the MSA approach developed by Dr. Brown. Data from pilot studies indicate that highly accurate screening for common fetal autosomal (Trisomy 18, 21) and sex chromosomal (47, XXY) chromosome abnormalities is feasible, particularly in the first trimester of pregnancy when MSA features of early pregnancy-derived cells can be leveraged. This approach affords diagnostic confirmation by CVS, an invasive first trimester procedure, or genetic amniocentesis in the early 2nd trimester.
    "The technique described by Dr. Brown and his team at Lenetix will create a revolution in prenatal diagnosis," said study investigator Allan Fisher, M.D., FACOG, FACMG. "This testing will ultimately decrease the number of amniocenteses, and thus reduce the number of miscarriages caused by amniocenteses. It will also help us identify patients who will need an amniocentesis or CVS where we may have missed them before. A better test that produces fewer false positives and negatives drives better patient care, and that's exciting for the future."
    "Our preliminary results are extraordinarily encouraging, and complement nicely the work of other investigators whose efforts have focused heretofore in the 2nd trimester," said Lenetix president and CEO Leonard H. Kellner. "Such breakthroughs in improvements of current maternal serum screening for fetal aneuploidy, including fetal Down syndrome, will lead to better quality of screening and most certainly will result in less unnecessary, invasive diagnostic testing."
    Source: Lenetix, Inc.
    Sounds like a fait accompli, huh?

    I guess I'd choose that over the "partial-birth" option...no, wait - the first one...no, the second one...oh, that's right: They're both "health choices".
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    Indeed
    it ends with the same question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100% View Post
    Indeed
    it ends with the same question.
    How to answer that question, then.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

    -Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100% View Post
    Ignas is getting his first baby, we had a heavy discussion about this.
    He decided with his wife to not take an abortion. They took a scan last week, the child is fine.

    It is possible to diagnose down syndrome at the first eccolog (scan) by looking at the shape of the spine.
    To diagnose other malfunctions one needs to analyse the fluids which can cause miscarriage.

    If you know that your future child is diagnosed with down syndrome would you abort it?
    I say yes
    but when the moment comes i have no clue what i would decide.

    arguments i have heard for pro abortion


    - unable to take care of itself
    - does not develop
    - will not reflect you
    - first 6 years are fine then the difference shows
    - survival of fittest


    anti abortion views i have heard
    - depends on the level
    - life is life
    - what is normal?
    I know someone with Downs Syndrome that has his own flat, a job and appears to have quite a good life.

    Wonder what he'd think of this Poll?








    Actually, has he got Downs Syndrome or is he just a Mackum, can be difficult to tell sometimes.
    Last edited by Rat Faced; 02-03-2009 at 12:09 AM.

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    Who deleted my post?

    One can't say one's opinion, with bitter sarcasm, about the issue?

    Dry pin-heads...

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 100% View Post
    Indeed
    it ends with the same question.
    How to answer that question, then.
    You bastard! dare to ask me this question...

    So yes even if you can predict your offspring's "failures" to put in the future tense.

    Depending on what failure means in the future.

    The answer to your question is,

    Is the child sustainable.







    edit: this answer is wrong but right.
    .
    Last edited by 100%; 02-03-2009 at 10:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100% View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post

    How to answer that question, then.
    You bastard! dare to ask me this question...

    So yes even if you can predict your offspring's "failures" to put in the future tense.

    Depending on what failure means in the future.

    The answer to your question is,

    Is the child sustainable.







    edit: this answer is wrong but right.
    .
    You called me a bastard.

    Now, that's ironic.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 100% View Post

    You bastard! dare to ask me this question...

    So yes even if you can predict your offspring's "failures" to put in the future tense.

    Depending on what failure means in the future.

    The answer to your question is,

    Is the child sustainable.







    edit: this answer is wrong but right.
    .
    You called me a bastard.

    Now, that's ironic.
    Somebody had to say it lol lol

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    I voted to abort. But down syndrome is not the only genetical disorder, life for a person with down syndrome and his parents is very difficult but they are really harmless and some of them integrates themselves to society very well. There are actually other genetical disorders that science can't predict before birth, like mentall illness, psychopath, etc.

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    I say abort, but it would be much different and harder to let go if the situation ever arose, especially for the woman.

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