Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross call to Manuel

[Skweeky]

That's terrible Barbie. Seriously. Start listening to some decent music.

[donk3y]

it was just a joke

[JPaul]

Your face is just a joke.

[chalice]

Ross has been suspended for 12 weeks without pay and the controller of Radio 2 has resigned.

True story.

[JPaul]

Good

[Skweeky]

Has the parliament had a discussion over it yet? It's obviously really fucking important if it has to come to that

[JPaul]

Has the parliament had a discussion over it yet? It's obviously really fucking important if it has to come to that

They did what they did on the BBC, funded by the licence payers. It's the British national broadcaster. As such it was appropriate for them to be involved.

Had it been another broadcaster I would agree with you but in this instance I don't. The point isn't how important it was, it was how it was funded and the 27,000 complaints made by the people who paid for it.

[JPaul]

This is the important bit.

The BBC is constitutionally established by a Royal Charter. An accompanying Agreement recognises its editorial independence and sets out its public obligations in detail.

The current Royal Charter was granted to the BBC on 19 September 2006. It took full effect from 1 January 2007.

The text of the Royal Charter and Agreement are available on the BBC Trust site.

It's not just another company, Skweeky.

[Skweeky]

I have to disagree.

1 . There's loads of stuff on the beeb that I'd rather not see my money spent on. It's a matter of taste and opinion.

2. I am more concerned about the fact that money was spent on paying politicians to give their opinions on this.

3. 27000 complaints were made only after the whole media circus that was made out of it. The original broadcast received two complaints.

4. 27000 out of a population on 60 million is not even 0.05 of a percent. Since when does the government give a hoot about that small a percentage?

It never should've been blown out of proportion like this. Worse things are said and done on telly on a daily basis.

[JPaul]

Tell me what you've heard worse on BBC radio please.

Politicians discussed it because they operate under a Royal Charter. In effect they represent the Government. I think it being discussed was perfectly reasonable.

It doesn't matter when the complaints were made, the point is they were. The percentage argument is nonsense. You would have to compare the 27,000 to what level of complaints one normally gets. That's in the hundreds as I understand it.

They phoned a 78 year old man and left a message on his answering machine that one of them had fucked his granddaughter. Phoned him back three times with more pish. Then broadcast it to the nation. You hear worse things on the telly on a daily basis. On the BBC, I think not.

No sorry, Skweeky. I'm absolutely certain you don't hear worse things on the BBC on a daily basis.