Shame on you and god damn you!

[pentomato]

the object of intolerance is implied to be something morally wrong. when the object of intolerance is intolerance itself, the implication is that the person whose intolerance you object to is morally unjustified for his intolerance. and since your own intolerance (of that person's unjustified intolerance) is morally justified, then you shouldn't find your own intolerance intolerable because you really don't find all forms of intolerance intolerable. you just find the forms of intolerance that are morally unjustified intolerable.

Hope that lets you sleep better Barbie.

It is time the veto was dropped from the U.N. Only then will we get a concensus of world opinion. The voting system should be votes per size of population, or is that not democracy.

The killing of children should herald the intervention of the U.N. peace keepers.

Yeah I agree when the palestinians use their kids as suicide bombers, the Un should start that peace keeping thingy they do so great, they are useless that UN.

[RizKhan25000]

Yes Shame on us and "us" include every human being of this world whether muslim, jew or christian etc as in this age of science and technology we are still quarreling with each other on the same old dogmas, religion, ethnicity race etc. why we become ruthless when facing someone from other ethnicity, religion or nation? Why we are fighting the wars which have their false foundations laid in the ancient history? For how long we would kill in the name of God? for how long we would do the greatest mischief in the name of secularism and democracy? When will we be able to eliminate extremism? When will we be able to see another human being as a human, having the same red blood as us, without any reference to his religion, race or culture. When will? Until then "Shame on us".

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Thread cleaned. Please remember this is the Drawing Room and to stay on topic.

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Hope that lets you sleep better Barbie.

It is time the veto was dropped from the U.N. Only then will we get a concensus of world opinion. The voting system should be votes per size of population, or is that not democracy.

The killing of children should herald the intervention of the U.N. peace keepers.

Yeah I agree when the palestinians use their kids as suicide bombers, the Un should start that peace keeping thingy they do so great, they are useless that UN.

Up to date Israel has ensured that nearly 300 children will never be suicide bombers.

Spoiler: Show

The pic above is the reality. Anyone who agrees that this is the way to retaliate needs to see a shrink.

[pentomato]

Yeah I agree when the palestinians use their kids as suicide bombers, the Un should start that peace keeping thingy they do so great, they are useless that UN.

Up to date Israel has ensured that nearly 300 children will never be suicide bombers.

Spoiler: Show

The pic above is the reality. Anyone who agrees that this is the way to retaliate needs to see a shrink.

I know it is very cruel to see children die like that, but Israel has the right to defend itself. Hamas are the one's to blame, they could end this war today, just do not send rockets to Israel, it is as easy as that.
Hamas they have their own interest ib this war, they could care less about those children, if they did, they would do something about it.

[IdolEyes787]

There was a piece on the news where the claim was that Israel "evacuated" a group of Palestinian women and children to a "safe" house.Left them there for three days without food or water and then proceeded to bomb the place killing the majority.
Not saying that it's true(I certainly hope it isn't) but it's incredibly bad PR if nothing else..

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I know it is very cruel to see children die like that, but Israel has the right to defend itself. Hamas are the one's to blame, they could end this war today, just do not send rockets to Israel, it is as easy as that.
Hamas they have their own interest ib this war, they could care less about those children, if they did, they would do something about it.[/quote]

I am old enough to remember the Jews blowing up civilian targets in Palestine(As it was called then). Funny ehough the Jews that did those bombings were called 'freedom fighters'. A couple later became Israeli Prime Ministers.

[tralalala]

Israel can't and won't win the propaganda war, ever. Usually the winning side finds it hard to do so, as in every war there are women and children being harmed and killed. Not only that, but you never see the Israeli sides' injuries and fatalities, do you? It's an unfair set of photos to send to the press, as it doesn't help anyone. We shall carry on the war regardless of how many dying kids pics Hamas sends to the press, and Hamas won't give a toss if we show pictures of kids with amputated arms and legs from Israeli hospitals either.

The propaganda war is pointless in this case. No one knows exactly what is going on, since no one is actually there. Only the people there can tell you what happens there. In fact, the best evidence would be to live there yourself (on both sides of the conflict), then decide for yourself.

You won't see pictures of Palestinian injured people being taxied from the Strip to hospitals in Israel, do you? Though it does happen, time and time again. The truth is too vast to shove into a picture or ten on the 8 o'clock news.. All I'm saying is that a collage of pictures isn't what should determine who is to blame, or who is the "bastard" side in this conflict..

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I am old enough to remember the Jews blowing up civilian targets in Palestine(As it was called then). Funny ehough the Jews that did those bombings were called 'freedom fighters'. A couple later became Israeli Prime Ministers.

The same way as Arafat become the president of the palestinians, he had american as well as jewish blood in his hands, and those same guys the europeans and the americans gave them billions of dollars to reconstruction of the palestinian state, all of that money went to someone's bank account, only god knows where.
My point is, palestinians do not care about peace with Israel, I am talking about the leaders, they just want money that's all they want, they betray their people over and over.
If they care about their people as I said before, they would end the fight right now, there is not differece between Al qaeda, Hamass or Hezbollah, they just want money and they are ok, as long as the leaders live like kings or dictators that's all they care about.
Why don't they leaders blow theirselves up instead of sending women and children, if they care so much about the cause, let them sacrifice theirselves and stop hiding as cowards, could it be, that they just want money and power?
One more thing, why doesn't hamas stop havind their bases where the civilians live? They are killing their own people for nothing, is that caring about their people?
Ashame they are winning this propaganda war agains the Jews, the jews should bomb the hell out of all of them once and for all.

[BawA]

Up to date Israel has ensured that nearly 300 children will never be suicide bombers.

Spoiler: Show

The pic above is the reality. Anyone who agrees that this is the way to retaliate needs to see a shrink.

I know it is very cruel to see children die like that, but Israel has the right to defend itself. Hamas are the one's to blame, they could end this war today, just do not send rockets to Israel, it is as easy as that.
Hamas they have their own interest ib this war, they could care less about those children, if they did, they would do something about it.

except israel clearly said regardless of UN decision it wont cease fire until it gets to it objectives ergo killing as much as it can, who's with peace now!