waffles ?

[Rafa]

Mmm..
If I'm not wrong FLAC was never meant to be built for normal playbacks but instead for archiving albums just in case they get scratched or spoil after too many plays.

Word... is simple like this. FLAC is for archiving, is a perfect copy from original record/cd, then you can convert to any other format you like, and you can record a CD identical to the original. That is why i download FLAC, for archiving, not for hear in any player or whatever. Otherwise, V0 would be good enough, since in normal sound system we can not distinguish the difference between both.

Next you'll be telling us there's no quality difference between CD & Vinyl

There is a quality difference between CD and vinyl. Mastered way better most of the time. :>

Before I thought the CD was much better than vynil, but now it does not seem so real... am i wrong?

[integral]

i'm glad i don't have this much time on my hands to know all of this stuff.

[piratebot]

I'm just saying, in order to actually know you hear differences, you need to do some proper testing to eliminate any hard-headed bias.

Look up "bias" and "placebo" in a dictionary or wiki. This may help you understand.

I don't want to start a flame throwing contest, but seriously dude, get off your throne. Now you've insulted my intelligence as well. As if I don't know what placebo and bias mean. My major in college was sociology, so I know exactly what they are, thank you very much.

And no I don't need to scientifically knowwhich sounds better. The one sounds better than the other to me, and that's that. Who the hell cares otherwise?

One doesn't sound better than the other if you can't spot the differences, genius.

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index....e=Transparency

Just don't go around saying you can tell flac vs v0 because you have some hot shit headphones and a major in sociology and don't care about placebo.
If you're downloading high bitrate mp3s or flac for the peace of mind of knowing you'll have little or no artifacts, then that's fine.

[Lovestoned]

Maybe he has gold plated ears? You never know.

Or maybe he's a crossbreed between a human and a bat.

[tX]

i'm glad i don't have this much time on my hands to know all of this stuff.

It really amuses me to read people say they don't have time to do 10 minute readings, yet probably spend that much time, at least, posting in forums

@lhnz, it's a lost cause

[cinephilia]

if you don't have a suitable hi-fi system, you'll never hear the difference between v0 and flac, it's as simple as that.

[Time-Traveller]

Word... is simple like this. FLAC is for archiving, is a perfect copy from original record/cd, then you can convert to any other format you like, and you can record a CD identical to the original. That is why i download FLAC, for archiving, not for hear in any player or whatever. Otherwise, V0 would be good enough, since in normal sound system we can not distinguish the difference between both.

Next you'll be telling us there's no quality difference between CD & Vinyl

There is a quality difference between CD and vinyl. Mastered way better most of the time. :>

Before I thought the CD was much better than vynil, but now it does not seem so real... am i wrong?

Yeah vinyl on the same reference system as a cd sounds way better.

Either way vinyl or a properly well mastered cd will allow the track to breathe, give you an incredible detailed soundstage & excellent instrument placement so you can hear that the drummer is playing behind the lead singer, the bass guitarist is to the left and lead guitar is too the right.

[BigNut]

anyone got waffles invites? i have what.cd and would love to get into waffles. from what i can see what.cd has a great FLAC selection...

[yevgeny]

i notice a subtle difference but only with particular types of music. complicated sounds like rain and rage against the machines self titled album sound far better/more detailed from what i can tell.

[athenaesword]

it is possible that there are some audible differences in flac and mp3 v0, but that may be usually attributed to fault in the encoding algorithms, which are highly improbable in the first place.

i briefly ran through the whole thread, and my are there quite a few pompous asses out there insisting that differences in v0 and flac should be "obvious". that's bullshit in itself. and before any one of you idiots come trumping around with your "it's your setup" shit again, I've had an RSA Predator + UE TF10s, which aren't the highest end in portable audio, but they're more than decent, and v0 and flac sounds exactly the same on those.

I'm currently using an Oritek OMZ + Adam A7 professional monitors. that's as accurate as anyoen's likely to get without blowing over $2k. and I STILL can't hear any noticeable difference between flac and mp3. if i did blind tests, maybe i will, but on casual listening, there's NO WAY differences are obvious.

those who wish to continue insisting that their ears are golden, put up some abx results, otherwise, keep your dreaming to yourself.

Word... is simple like this. FLAC is for archiving, is a perfect copy from original record/cd, then you can convert to any other format you like, and you can record a CD identical to the original. That is why i download FLAC, for archiving, not for hear in any player or whatever. Otherwise, V0 would be good enough, since in normal sound system we can not distinguish the difference between both.

There is a quality difference between CD and vinyl. Mastered way better most of the time. :>

Before I thought the CD was much better than vynil, but now it does not seem so real... am i wrong?

Yeah vinyl on a the same reference system as a cd sounds way.

Either way vinyl or a properly well mastered cd will allow the track to breathe, give you an incredible detailed soundstage & excellent instrument placement so you can hear that the drummer is playing behind the lead singer, the bass guitarist is to the left and lead guitar is too the right.

you've not once supported what you've said in this entire thread. all we've heard is all the pompous "audiophile" terms over and over. enough with trying to blow smoke in everyone's eyes and get some tests done already. then we can begin to talk. it's fine if you think you can hear the difference, but insisting that everyone else should? geez.

and 80% of head-fi's smoke. yes there's some good info on there, and over the years I've learnt quite abit about audio from there, but tbh these days it's just too hard to filter out the rubbish.