How would "You" get good members

[stoi]

maybe for some sites, but remember i have been doing this for 5 years, and i have tried everything or at least most things in the spectrum.

We were open when we first started, but had to close because we got 11,000 peers and it crashed the server.

then we moved and went with XBTT, we then opened again, got to 40,000 closed for a bit. went down to 25,000 so opened again.

opened for about 3-4 months, we got 100,000 members (which was my goal) problem was, most were dupe accounts, when we closed it only took about 3-4 months to go from 100,000 members all the way down to 45,000 again.

I am not aying that staff banned 55,000 members, but most of those were dupe accounts, sign up, grab 4 torrents, hit and run, get into KL so they cant download, sign up again, 2 months later the old account would get pruned, so that is why when we closed, we went down so much in members.

I could not give a crap about rarity, apart from the things i do not agree about it lol

[Time-Traveller]

The Thing Many (i didnt say all) SysOP's realize their sites are only popular only till they have a high Rarity across the internet . The Day they open signups forever , i can bet you almost all will just leave the site because as i said , almost all the people (including all the anti-trader forEVER !!!! types) have the level shit in their minds.

You've made good points in this thread and I can see the logic in what your saying but I'm not entirely convinced on this bit. You could open the sign-ups but don't increase the maximum number of users and I'm confident a lot of the "good users" the ones you want in your site would stay for the community, the content & it would still be a bit of an exclusive club for existing members with a trickle of fresh blood joining all the time. This should reduce the value of the site in the eye's of users / traders as they would have at the back of their minds that if I'm persistent enough I'll get an account here legitimately and won't have to trade / buy

Just a thought, not saying it's gospel

[mamacita]

Just throwing this out there for the hell of it, but if what if a site had several tiers to it?

Have a general part of the site where it is relatively easy to get into, but doesn't offer many of the amenities that the higher tiers have. Perhaps access to much of the forum, and maybe torrents that are older than x amount of days/weeks?

And from there you can have people who watch out for the "gems in the rough" and recruit accordingly.

It's almost like having a dummy sister site from which you recruit to the main site.

Might be a bad idea, but was just brainstorming.

[Time-Traveller]

Just throwing this out there for the hell of it, but if what if a site had several tiers to it?

Have a general part of the site where it is relatively easy to get into, but doesn't offer many of the amenities that the higher tiers have. Perhaps access to much of the forum, and maybe torrents that are older than x amount of days/weeks?

And from there you can have people who watch out for the "gems in the rough" and recruit accordingly.

It's almost like having a dummy sister site from which you recruit to the main site.

Might be a bad idea, but was just brainstorming.

I think it's a really good idea in theory but let's face it I don't think anybody could be arsed actually implementing it lol

Think the closest your going to get to that is one site recruiting from another sites forum whthe pro's & con's of which have already been discussed

[SaviouR]

about my earlier post i didnt mean all sites , i spoke about the sites which just thrive on Rarity . and yes i agree , Demonoid system works fantastic .

[brightsid]

It's just what I was talking about mamacita

[ShadowsServant]

Best way imo is simple, staff do recruitment threads and / or irc interviews when / if they need new members, that way they decided who they get in, i also prefer to get invited by staff because your account is safer, your not gonna get banned because the guy who invited you traded or something.

Recruiting sounds good. Have a little talk with the soon to be members would be great. Interviews would help to get an idea what kind of a member they will be. Sure some people can flat out lie their way in but nothing is full proof. Maybe revising all new members after a set period of time to reevaluate the members helpfulness.

It would be time consuming of course. Depends on what effort your want to put in.

[SoulEdge01]

Why not the staff interviews potential members by themselves.

[stoi]

well in all honesty mate, i did not ban you it must have been cirno, so if you want a 2nd chance (which you will not get because you cheated) you will have to speak to him.

You can say all the excuses in the book, but what you fail to grasp is this.

I have been there, and still am.

I used to have a PC with an 11gig hdd, i ran the tracker on that and seeded new XBOX games by myself and on a 25KBs connection.

Now I have the HDD space but my connection is still crap, from 10am to 10pm I have to limit my uploading to 10KBs or I get capped if I upload 1.3gig in that time, and my net slows to a crawl.

I also have to turn my PC off on a night as well.

I am the owner with DB access.

But guess what, I still do not cheat, it just means that instead of a week to get SP it takes me 2 weeks, and instead of 4 days to get a 1:1 on a 360 torrent, it takes me 2-3 weeks.

I have even downloaded these PSP packs, so over 100gig, but i have seeded them till SP and I am still seeding them and will do till i get over a 1 Actual ratio on them in my client, and probably for months after as well.

There is just no excuse for cheating, and sorry but if you got caught, good.

[bumrocks]

I have not read everyones answers so this may be a dupe but it is my answer...

To the question in subject line.

My feeling that there is no perfect way, but the best way is via an app process with profile links...Mandatory minimum of 4, imo. And then start looking into as much history as possible...Obviously, looking at account times, stats, usernames, and such...Tedious it is, but the closest thing to letting people in that you don't know as safely as possible. And should they dick you around whether it be trading or cheating you will have links to their other accounts!