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    Don't you mean, "Do I hope Obama proves America can thrive under socialism?"

    Well, it hasn't worked too well anywhere else, so, uh, no - I guess not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Don't you mean, "Do I hope Obama proves America can thrive under socialism?"

    Well, it hasn't worked too well anywhere else, so, uh, no - I guess not.
    What you'll end up with is social democracy, at best. Which works well enough.

    I'm only saying that because I'm in what's generally run by social democrats, and it does all right.

    The taxes are higher but less people have to sleep on the streets, or die cos they lack health insurance, and fun stuff like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Don't you mean, "Do I hope Obama proves America can thrive under socialism?"

    Well, it hasn't worked too well anywhere else, so, uh, no - I guess not.
    ?
    america is pretty socialist already and a bit more 'socialism' seems to work fine in all of western & northern europe
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    America is destined to crash and burn anyways. (Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are condemned to repeat them.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Don't you mean, "Do I hope Obama proves America can thrive under socialism?"

    Well, it hasn't worked too well anywhere else, so, uh, no - I guess not.
    Do you really think Obama's a socialist?

    Like, actually?

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    If Obama succeeds in making the United States a little less hegemonistic and more concerned with the welfare of its own citizens that would be a winner in my eyes. Far too much of the American taxpayers money is going to prop up foreign countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Don't you mean, "Do I hope Obama proves America can thrive under socialism?"

    Well, it hasn't worked too well anywhere else, so, uh, no - I guess not.
    What you'll end up with is social democracy, at best. Which works well enough.

    I'm only saying that because I'm in what's generally run by social democrats, and it does all right.

    The taxes are higher but less people have to sleep on the streets, or die cos they lack health insurance, and fun stuff like that.
    More on this when I've got the time, Snee, but, as usual, you've gotten to the crux of the matter for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by ilw View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Don't you mean, "Do I hope Obama proves America can thrive under socialism?"

    Well, it hasn't worked too well anywhere else, so, uh, no - I guess not.
    ?
    america is pretty socialist already and a bit more 'socialism' seems to work fine in all of western & northern europe
    Misapprehension and a wee bit of an overstatement, Ian.

    Again, I'll expand, but it'll have to be later.

    Quote Originally Posted by typeoholic View Post
    America is destined to crash and burn anyways. (Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are condemned to repeat them.)
    Can't let you get away without backing that up; you're right about the history, of course, but selling us short into the bargain.

    Quote Originally Posted by kAb View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Don't you mean, "Do I hope Obama proves America can thrive under socialism?"

    Well, it hasn't worked too well anywhere else, so, uh, no - I guess not.
    Do you really think Obama's a socialist?

    Like, actually?
    He's smart enough not to admit it, but his ideas are socialist, absolutely.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigboab View Post
    If Obama succeeds in making the United States a little less hegemonistic and more concerned with the welfare of its own citizens that would be a winner in my eyes. Far too much of the American taxpayers money is going to prop up foreign countries.
    Less hegemonistic?

    I'll go along with that - it's a lot less expensive.
    “Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of 'em are stupider than that.” -George Carlin

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    Bush and company burned America to the ground, they ruin millions of lives, what could Obama do to screw it up more? I think Bush did it already.
    Obviously capitalism under Bush didn't work did it? Millions loosing their houses, millions loosing their jobs, gosh I think republicans really did it this time.
    Lack of oversight in the financial system, corruption runned rampant with the republican administratio, congress and the senate, bravo I hope Obama can change the way America has been going for the last eight years, a retard drove this beautiful country to the ground.
    We have more homeless than ever, two wars that had nothing to do with America's security and a huge deficit that will screw future generations.
    Stop the socialist crying already. it is getting old.
    Last edited by pentomato; 01-28-2009 at 12:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Don't you mean, "Do I hope Obama proves America can thrive under socialism?"
    One can only hope.
    Bush totalitarianism didn't work out too well, did it?
    "I am the one who knocks."- Heisenberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post

    Can't let you get away without backing that up; you're right about the history, of course, but selling us short into the bargain.
    History has a way of repeating itself; that, my friend, is enough to back up my statement.

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