The history and future of BT

[The_Martinator]

I see my thread has taken off nicely.

Anyway all you guys are saying is true. Ultimately seedboxers let everyone download stuff faster. But IMO the sence of sharing is gone withpeople wanting to have uber leet ratios. I'm seeding a popular torrent, but 90% of the leechers are downloading it not to use the files, but just so they can improve their ratio (the percentage might be a bit exaggerated, though).

Here's another thing to consider: Nowadayseveryone can make a tracker, so we have new trackers coming and going all the time. I wish I was around before where there was (almost) a fixed number of trackers. Is that fact hurting the BT world in your opinion?

[slammers]

Agreed.

Assuming they're still sharing what they download, what's the problem?

the problem is that they 'overseed'. People with home connections can't seed well if there are like 5 seedboxes or more on a torrent. They upload about 50GB for a single DVDr movie. They should do something about this overseeding you know.

And I read here somewhere else that people download stuff they don't even look at or need but just to maintain ratio. I used to do that in the beginning sometimes but now, with so many seedboxes I am forced to download freeleech torrents etc. which I remove when they are not uploading anymore, and this SUCKS!

about newsgroups... I use it. And it's not the case that you always need to pay. I got some free newsservers which get my full line (1mb/s) and they go faster but I do not know how fast. And if you want to pay, it costs approx 10 - 20 dollars per month. Which is cool seeing torrenting is becoming more and more pay2leech anyways, and you don't need to upload with newsgroups (not that that is a big advantage but at least its a disturbing factor less for people with a slow uploadspeed).

if you have any questions regarding newsgroups, pm me. I am willing to help you out. But don't come and pm me about 'can you give me some free newsservers?'

[stoi]

Ok i will try not to get to technical with this.

But if I upload a torrent that is 5 gig, with a seedbox, and 100 leechers jump on it, i can connect to 50 of them (depending on how i have my client set up.) but i am also uploading at 12MBs most home users cant download that fast (100mbit) so most home users are nearly maxing their connection, but i am uploading that fast to each of them, each of them is taking the same bits off me, so that is why at the end, when i eventually see a leech turn to a seed, i have a very silly upload on the thing.

if we stopped members seeding to a 2 ratio, then the above uploader could only get .2 of the torrent out before he would have to stop seeding.

If seedboxes just disapeared tomorrow, there would be hell on, "Hurry the fuck up" "this is going at 20KBs zzzzzzzzzzzzzz" comments.

But you would be able to get a better ratio, but it doesnt matter how fast you can upload or how many leechers there are, if you get a 2 ratio someone else can only get a 0.5 ratio doesnt matter how long they seed for, 100% of the members on that torrent will never, ever get a 1 ratio, its impossible.

[The_Martinator]

Nicely put, stoi. That's why BCG is great, your SP system is unbeatable. I wonder why no other sites haven't tried to copy it yet. Maybe it's hard to code?

[Cabalo]

maybe it's not profitable to those other sites...