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Thread: Paying to get into trackers?

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    before i start i will just say i do not agree with it at all, and there is about a 0.0001% chance of this ever happening with us, I wont say never but it is very very slim.

    So what do you think about this, Would you do it, have you done it, Do you just not bother if they have this, If you are already in a tracker like this, do you/ would you still donate etc etc

    I have been thinking about this for the past few days, again though not to do it myself, but i can see it being a way to get only good members, lets say we done it for arguments sake.

    £5 donation gets you in, you also get 1 month of full bonuses (which even i admit are not a lot lol but its something).

    those that do pay to get in, will or i would say will be a 95% chance to be a good member, you are not going to pay and then trade the account, you may pay £5 and then sell the account for £20 though i suppose. You are very unlikely to cheat if you have paid to get in.

    So i can see some sort of sense in doing it, still does not mean i would do it on my tracker though, as i still think it is wrong.

    but just wondering what the rest of you think.

    PS: I do not mean Donating and getting an Invite, I mean actually paying to get access like a few are doing.
    Last edited by stoi; 02-10-2009 at 12:22 PM.

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    Well with FTP access is the same thing , you pay .

    Well I am against this but now that you said it is true that if someone donated it is a very small chance that he will cheat there because he wouldn't like to pay for nothing in the end .

    And about trading , he could use the account to trade it for something but if he is caught again he loses the money . If it would be a good tracker and the acces to it would be only £5 you could sell it with more as you said , but not everyone has friends that can help them with invites or they dont have time to stay all day on forum and get attention .

    In some cases it would be good and in other cases not , like every things it has bad things and good things .

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    No, I wouldn't pay anyone sort of money to get into a tracker if there was a way to get in for free. Kinda like with pirating, If I can get what I want for free than why pay money? Now, if say in the future, a network of trackers band together and you get access to all the trackers along with freeleech and other perks, than maybe. This seems to work ok for porn. Now, of course If there were a band of trackers that did this of course there would be intense scrutiny of those trackers.

    The idea of trackers making extra cash off of warez doesn't sit to well with me though. If a trackers membership base had to pay to get in, I think that that tracker would be even more of a target of the feds more than now. If I had to pay for warez, bittorrent wouldn't even be an option because of this.
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    Mostly I would say no, but I would condiser it to get into an otherwise impossible tracker

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    never pay for warez - enough said.

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    It depends on your morals, really. If you think it is "wrong" to sell accounts to warez and other things, then it's clearly the worst thing to do. But if you're in it to be a business and profit like TL and SCT, then selling invites/accounts is quite profitable, in every sense.

    Also, I doubt a true profit torrent site like TL really cares about traders. If they're selling accounts, then the only way someone can make a profit is selling it for less, and even then TL would still be making good profits, so I doubt they'd go on any hunts.

    TL's staff seems to have passed first-year economics in school or something, since their business practices are a cut above ScT in a few ways. One of those ways is their VIP plan. If you pay w00t to get an account in TL, which is allowed, you're VIP. VIP allows you no waiting times, and no ratio rules. Now, that only lasts 2 months or something, then you have to pay again. If you're an unsuspecting person, and get a ratio of 0.0001 with 2TB downloaded or something, and VIP runs out, you are officially fucked. You're hit with wait times, and you only have a little time to fix your ratio, before you're banned. In this way, TL has made almost a monthly billing plan for their accounts. Smart guys, really.

    So to reiterate, it's all about morals. It could be the worst abomination, or a keystone in your business model. One thing I will say, though, is if shit hits the fan in a legal sense, I'd hate to be the owner of a tracker that sold accounts, rather than a place like FTWR or FSC.

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    same here...i would not pay .You said that in this way you could get good users...but how many users do you think are willing to pay?...just because someone is not willing to pay for acces doesen't mean they don't have seedboxes or huge internet speeds...or just simply that they aren't good users
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    Ok but you could look at it, as you are getting the donation benefits anyway, that you are donating to get in.

    before the fake page was put on our tracker, i was getting silly payments from Guest, i ws like who the hell, then 2 minutes later another email, can i get in i just donated, ffs send cash back NO.

    btw silly payments i am talking £30 min i think the max was over £250 ffs

    just for a bloody account, i was like, i could be making a frigging fortune here lol

    PS: i wrote this in answer to polarbears, i never seen integrals.
    Last edited by stoi; 02-10-2009 at 12:26 PM.

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    stoi, my personal point of view is actually pretty general.

    If the tracker isn't getting enough donations for the month then this may be employed to help the tracker, even if people don't agree with this but they're just mostly members.

    If they don't agree and yet don't donate at all then forget about listening to them, piracy is meant for free stuffs but to support a tracker it's definitely not going to be free.

    Pedro's has been doing it this way and I got in by donating, I've been a good member too.

    What I can suggest you to do if you really have this would to be keeping a close eye of the people who has donated to get in stringently time to time.
    Back after going through many ordeals of paying for my internet.

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    ..yeah..when you look at it from the money-making point of view that would increase your pocket size a lot ...but i belive that's when the tracker steps out of the filesharing bussines and entering the money-making bussines...
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