Why are trades allowed here?

[CaliPirate]

lol...i remember that being one of my first questions here on Fst...i seemingly misspelled(like i misspelled this) traders as "tarders", which went on to become a joke..aand thus my Title!

lol...I'm bad at spelling...i feel your pain

[harshytkage]

actually it was more of a typo, not that i'm excellent at spelling 'nuf said

[Submission]

i wanna answer this queation with another question.if this elite sites opens signups periodicly who can trade.And in this elite trackers i dont know exact persantage, nearly half is good traders.there was one uk-t topic find and see there traders persantage who is in uk-t

um.. i don't really understand what you're asking here. but what do you mean by "good traders"? cause in the trackers' point of view, there are none.

why should trackers that don't want to have open signups have it? if they want to recruit new members by careful selection within their circles, then so be it. the fact that there are a lot of curious people that want to join these trackers who don't know any other way than trading doesn't justify shit. the trackers have no obligations at all in this matter. besides, this doesn't have much to do with the topic anyways.

EDIT: to Albo Da Kid > that sums it up pretty good. however, there are atleast one more aspect that i can think of. take uk-t for example. the reason why they are so closed up is mainly cause of the legal threat.. some trackers want to be restrictive with who they let in in order to maintain their sense of security (false or not)..

Trading makes a site better. People who dont want their account, instead of just wasting space trade it away to someone who does want it and becomes an active member.

If trading stops, trackers are not going be easier to get. It will get exponentially harder.

[Mano]

because trade is the best

[sear]

Trading makes a site better. People who dont want their account, instead of just wasting space trade it away to someone who does want it and becomes an active member.

That's the biggest load of bullshit ever spouted on this forum and honestly that's quite an achievement.

Traders almost never become active members because they're too worried about being caught out. Though I know there are exceptions to this...in my experience the only time traders become active is when their actually invited. Secondly if they don't want the account they should ASK STAFF TO DISABLE THEM.

By trading an account you're stealing a spot from someone who actually deserves it. No one has a right to a join any tracker they wish. I'm sorry if you don't have a friend to invite you but that's the only honourable way of getting in. Most trackers people are trading for want to remain small. That means not everyone can have them.

Honestly you're not missing anything anyway. All trackers have the same content. The only reason you'd enjoy one place more than another is that you know people there...which would mean you'd have an invite...which would mean you wouldn't have to trade. So really if you have to trade for it you're very unlikely to enjoy any of the smaller trackers. They have less peers and less torrents.

There's too much of a pokemon...got to have them all mentality at work here. It may be because the average age of torrenters is getting progressively lower, but it seems awfully childish to me.

And a final word of warning...if you get caught your IP will get tied up with that account...and who's to say they weren't a cheater or invite seller or worse thereby tarnishing your name. Even if you're not a hard core trader your details will then get handed around to other site staffers and bam...all in one hit you lose 6...7...8 or more trackers and find yourself black listed

[/end rant] who gives a fuck anyway, it's not like anyone is listening.

[Swanky]

Trading makes a site better. People who dont want their account, instead of just wasting space trade it away to someone who does want it and becomes an active member.

That's the biggest load of bullshit ever spouted on this forum and honestly that's quite an achievement.

Traders almost never become active members because they're too worried about being caught out. Though I know there are exceptions to this...in my experience the only time traders become active is when their actually invited. Secondly if they don't want the account they should ASK STAFF TO DISABLE THEM.

By trading an account you're stealing a spot from someone who actually deserves it. No one has a right to a join any tracker they wish. I'm sorry if you don't have a friend to invite you but that's the only honourable way of getting in. Most trackers people are trading for want to remain small. That means not everyone can have them.

Honestly you're not missing anything anyway. All trackers have the same content. The only reason you'd enjoy one place more than another is that you know people there...which would mean you'd have an invite...which would mean you wouldn't have to trade. So really if you have to trade for it you're very unlikely to enjoy any of the smaller trackers. They have less peers and less torrents.

There's too much of a pokemon...got to have them all mentality at work here. It may be because the average age of torrenters is getting progressively lower, but it seems awfully childish to me.

And a final word of warning...if you get caught your IP will get tied up with that account...and who's to say they weren't a cheater or invite seller or worse thereby tarnishing your name. Even if you're not a hard core trader your details will then get handed around to other site staffers and bam...all in one hit you lose 6...7...8 or more trackers and find yourself black listed

[/end rant] who gives a fuck anyway, it's not like anyone is listening.

Typical generic anti-trader tyrade. .

[sear]

Typical generic trader justification.

I'm not an anti-trader and I couldn't care less whether you believe me or not. For some reason Submissions post pissed me off. Maybe it's the hours wasted tracking people who break the rules down. Either way if you don't like it put me on ignore.

[Submission]

That's the biggest load of bullshit ever spouted on this forum and honestly that's quite an achievement.

the usual wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Traders almost never become active members because they're too worried about being caught out. Though I know there are exceptions to this...in my experience the only time traders become active is when their actually invited. Secondly if they don't want the account they should ASK STAFF TO DISABLE THEM.

I've invited people and alot dont bother using their account. I haven't seen a difference between accounts and invites. Some people use their accounts some dont.

By trading an account you're stealing a spot from someone who actually deserves it. No one has a right to a join any tracker they wish. I'm sorry if you don't have a friend to invite you but that's the only honourable way of getting in. Most trackers people are trading for want to remain small. That means not everyone can have them.

And when you trade accounts, your size doesn't change. IN FACT you lose the people who do not want to be there and replace them with people who want to be there.

As for who's deserving, thats debateable. Your worth on a tracker is not based on who gives it to you its what you do with the account, BOTTOM LINE.

Honestly you're not missing anything anyway. All trackers have the same content. The only reason you'd enjoy one place more than another is that you know people there...which would mean you'd have an invite...which would mean you wouldn't have to trade. So really if you have to trade for it you're very unlikely to enjoy any of the smaller trackers. They have less peers and less torrents.

People trade all types of trackers not just small. I dont know what your ranting about here but you dont have any legitimate point.

And a final word of warning...if you get caught your IP will get tied up with that account...and who's to say they weren't a cheater or invite seller or worse thereby tarnishing your name. Even if you're not a hard core trader your details will then get handed around to other site staffers and bam...all in one hit you lose 6...7...8 or more trackers and find yourself black listed

This is all the more reason why anti-traders, people who do not want to trade should be banned from the trading section. If they do not want to trade then they dont lose anything, at the same time you preserve a large section of this forum.

More so anti-traders become a danger to the trading community by ratting out people because of whatever personal reasons they have.

Once you get rid of trading FST becomes a whinefest of "gimme this" "gimme that" and guess what trading goes somewhere else.

So if the admins here know whats good for this place they wont even entertain the thought. Frankly I dont even know why detale is given special privileges when he's a danger to the site. And even though Detale desperately tries to maintain a view of neutrality he is an anti-trader and has explicitly stated before that he hates traders.

You ban trading at FST, it'll go somewhere else.

You can deny this simple fact all you want it wont change a thing.

[Vinceftw]

i guess trades are allowed here bc fst gets more attention that way--> more income
one could argue that every post written with the topic of trading in it is a waste of time as traders dont read or understand it anyways. nor do they want to.

[sear]

You ban trading at FST, it'll go somewhere else.

You can deny this simple fact all you want it wont change a thing.

I never tried to deny this. In fact is true trading will never stop. I couldn't care less if FST wants to keep the trading section or not. As for blocking people who don't want to trade from the trading section I'd like to see you enforce it.

Do you honestly think staff are going to come here and declare they don't want to trade thereby cutting off their access...lol. Even 'private' trading forums haven't been able to keep staff out. Just like staff can't keep out all traders it's just an endless circle.

Really this argument is pointless...and responding to the rest of your points is a waste of my time. You will never change your mind, I'll never change mine so who cares. I won't be posting in this thread again.

I would point out that this is why I and plenty of other older members never post here any more...the traders combined with the insincere invite begging alongside the endless repetition of topics makes it a very unattractive read.