Do you think FST should get rid of the Trading section?

[chec]

sorry for this post.

Who wrote, it was not me,just see it.i was not at home night and one guy, f..ked up nearly all of my accounts like this

sorry again

[JPaul]

No the poll was meant to influence the community not the admins. Give this place a false feeling of consensus.

The fact of the matter is the admins can simply look at the post count in the trade section if they want to know if its dying.

Unless of course they plan on just killing it regardless of its size which is just shooting themselves in the foot. This site became huge because of tracker trading.

It is a fantasy that this forum became so huge because of the trading section. In the end from a business point of view it is the page impressions which are important because of the advertising, not who does what here while wearing a pink tutu in the moonlight, the management truly do not care.
You can try to justify trading all you want, the simple fact is that because of trading and the fact that trackers have a level or value attached to them they are being bartered as a commodity. Now with this trade there are also thieves (scammers) wanting to take a/cs because of the value of the tracker. This level also heightens peoples need to acquire to the point where we have invite sales and even bt invite/account auction sites.
Interestingly all the private trackers want is for members to find and invite other members they trust, but even this simple request is too much for some people.
Yet these same people say that they are to be trusted and that there isn't anything really wrong with trading, while there are people here that have 4-5 accounts on the same tracker simply for the buzz of beating the staff, and then there are those here with multiple a/c's to get what they can as fast as they can. There are so many reasons why trading is the thin end of the wedge, it brings about scamming and invite selling because of the value attributed to the trackers.
The same people always try and say that trading and the other scamming etc are separate issues, they are not, they are entwined.Some of the same people who trade are also scammers, even Albo Da Kid admitted proudly that he scammed his first private tracker account.
The question though is whether the trading section here should be removed, and this will make very little difference, the users who trade will simply go elsewhere, it is not like FST is any kind of moral leading light in the bt community. I am against trading, more for the stealing and lying and cheating that it brings with it and the fact that you quite often cannot trust the person you are talking to, simply because of the personal agenda's they have.
In a way it is the people who are satisfied with the tracker a/c's that they have or are there for the people in the community , who are the most trustworthy, simply because they usually have nothing to lie or steal or cheat about.

And also, it's like stamp collectors. They want to show what they have in their collection. Not because they actually want the thing, just to show it to other stamp collectors. It's pathetic.

Bt was about filesharing. Private trackers were about doing it safely and securely. Trading is about neither, it's about wee laddies with small penises trying to feel good about themselves.

I moved to using Usenet because of pricks like that.

This used to be the best filesharing forum on the internet. People were proud of being a member here. Now it's just a BT trading site and it's embarrassing.

[ben99]

this poll is retarded.

As many other users have noted, the result of the poll won't change anything.

It's not like the poll suggests anything should change anyways. It's not slanted too much either way. That being said, I wouldn't have expected it to be too slanted and it would take alot of leverage to get rid of an active part of the board.

yea, 2/3rds of the people here dont want a trading section but according to you that's not slanted. Go figure!

For every user that wants trading, 2 people oppose it. When you think of it that way, the poll IS slanted.

[puckface]

For every user that wants trading, 2 people oppose it. When you think of it that way, the poll IS slanted.

Im gonna edit my shit cause I cant do math.

[1000possibleclaws]

It's not like the poll suggests anything should change anyways. It's not slanted too much either way. That being said, I wouldn't have expected it to be too slanted and it would take alot of leverage to get rid of an active part of the board.

yea, 2/3rds of the people here dont want a trading section but according to you that's not slanted. Go figure!

For every user that wants trading, 2 people oppose it. When you think of it that way, the poll IS slanted.

It's not a large majority, it's only slightly slanted. It it were say 4 or 5/1 then yes it would be slanted. There's still a huge portion of the userbase that wants to keep it.

[Cabalo]

c'mon, there are only 300 votes cast in this poll.
with such low % of users voting, whatever the result of the poll is, it'll never be representative of the whole population around here.

[ben99]

c'mon, there are only 300 votes cast in this poll.
with such low % of users voting, whatever the result of the poll is, it'll never be representative of the whole population around here.

I mean, why would you want to wait until people start using their dupe accounts to vote?

[Ein2015]

I have no intention to try and remove the WTAW thread as I don't see any harm in it. The "hidden sections" aren't really hidden. There is a staff section and a VTG that is just so dead it's sad and we're looking to do something about it soon. The Community reps could stay in fact I would like to have more of them and I believe I could even get some of them to hold giveaways here. I think that if we ever did remove the trade section that by having more site staff around that would attract far more members then the ones who are die hard traders that would leave.

This is not all about making nice with trackers. The fact is some trackers as a whole will never be OK with anything other than ALL their demands being met. These people I have no time for. I don't blame them or us for the feuds that arise it's the members of BT as a whole. The old members don't take care of the new ones, it's that simple. New uber sites open up and spit on you if you arent 1337 enough. BT as a whole has gone down the tubes as of late. I think that it would be good for FST to teach people that there is a better way by removing the trade section and go back to members helping other members like it was when I first got here.

I have to disagree about your viewpoint on the WTAW thread. Arbitrary levels put into the WTAW thread causes a lot of new people to look and see a goal... and that goal is NOT of joining a great BT community, but instead figuring out what leaps they have to make to get into the "top level" ones.

What's kind of funny is that I started out back in the lokitorrent days and then on into elitetorrents. Heck I didn't really think about what communities were worth when I first got invited to a "level 10" (apparently) community. I just did my seeding, enjoyed some forums, etc.

Now I look and see that a lot of people are going NUTS over some "high end" trackers I'm on, and I don't really see the point. Most of those same torrents are hosted on "low end" trackers and communities there are just as fun and vibrant.

To me, the artificial "worth determination" system is doing a lot more harm than good... I love helping members new and old and I enjoy helping communities, but I do not enjoy helping people who only have the desire to hit the "super 1337 uber trackers" they dream about nightly.

Hopefully this can be seen as a respectful opinion of the state of things. I have no intention, desire, or care for offending people with this post.

[utalker]

I guess it's gone and that's a shame. Because it was the reason I joined this forum.

[Bone.W.Machine]

I guess it's gone and that's a shame. Because it was the reason I joined this forum.

it's gone?
I can still see it.