Gay Rights

[junkyardking]

People of any sexual orientation be they Gay, Bi sexual, Trans sexual should have the same rights as everybody else that includes marriage,
In Australia they dont allow gay marriage yet but the tax office treats gay couples as a couple while the social sercurity doesnt.


As for God there isnt any, Christians didnt even invent marriage, marriage exsited before most if not all religions.

[james_bond_rulez]

amen

[ilw]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@19 September 2003 - 13:17
but what if they adopt child and you haven't thought about how gay parents can affect child psychologically and how this is gonna affect them when they grow up. are they gonna turn out to be gays? or this will change their views on sex? is it gonna be a postive or negative effect? we dont know about that.

I think you have to assume being gay was a bad thing in order to argue that the children might turn out gay. The thing is that heterosexual couples don't need a licence to have children and so there are lots of bad parents out there perfectly free to have children.
Without any evidence that gay parents adversely affect children there doesn't seem to be any basis on which to exclude them from bringing children up, though of course the counter argument is that we shouldn't put the children at risk in order to experiment.

[james_bond_rulez]

amen

[junkyardking]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@19 September 2003 - 12:17
ok if gay couples marry, there are whatever issues, let it be tax, child benefits, or whatnot

but what if they adopt child and you haven't thought about how gay parents can affect child psychologically and how this is gonna affect them when they grow up. are they gonna turn out to be gays? or this will change their views on sex? is it gonna be a postive or negative effect? we dont know about that. I mean, how would you feel if your parents were gay?

this is, after all, a controversial issue and a lot of people disagree gays should have the right to be married.

Gay people should be allowed to have/adopt children just like everybody else,
the psychologically part tends to be used by people who oppose gay adoptions,
How they would effect the child psychologically is exactly the same as hetrosexual parents effect there children, you will get good and bad parents just like hetrosexual parents,
There are alot of people around mostly if not all from hetrosexual parents who are full of hate, crazy and what not, some times it's parenting sometimes it's not sometimes it's a combination of things.

The only problem i see is when the kids go to school and find out he/she has gay parents, but the kids who would make this an issue and what not tend get that from there parents and socity, it's this kind of intolerance and disrespect that makes up this world at the moment.

[human_pet]

What if this homosexual tradition lives on and becomes a trend?What would happen to mankind's generation?Die out just because some people have these "desire" to be an aid carryier and some others would want mankind to stop reproducing and thus ending the cycle of life...You see everything that God forbids there's a very good reason behind it,some we know of the harms and some we don't,but God knows us better than we do ourselves...

Peace and may human generation lives on

[Snee]

Originally posted by human_pet@19 September 2003 - 14:16
What if this homosexual tradition lives on and becomes a trend?What would happen to mankind's generation?Die out just because some people have these "desire" to be an aid carryier and some others would want mankind to stop reproducing and thus ending the cycle of life...You see everything that God forbids there's a very good reason behind it,some we know of the harms and some we don't,but God knows us better than we do ourselves...

Peace and may human generation lives on 

....Sorry but that argument is flawed, if god, assuming he exists is as is proclaimed, omnipotent, then this is all according to his plan. and if there is indeed something wrong with homosexuals (not saying there is) then this might just as well be gods way of eliminating their genes from the future genepool. As they have no natural means of procreating within their "unholy" relation, they will have no offspring after all.

Don't really think it's a trend either, I figure a lot of people was in hiding during the years before this became accepted and they were probably quite unhappy, now they don't have to hide and thus we see more of them, I don't think it's contagious really.

And come to think of this similar sexual orientations have been accepted before, just look at ancient greece.

Brothers of Plato, in real life. These two are Socrates primary interlocutors during the Republic. It can be inferred from the text that Plato liked and respected his brothers--his placing them there itself indicates this. Their personalities are not terribly evident--it is clear that Glaucon is somewhat competitive and a lover of young boys (a socially acceptable taste in ancient Greece), Adeimantus the less softly spoken of the two (he disagrees with Socrates more vehemently), and that both of them are very intelligent.

[james_bond_rulez]

amen

[Snee]

Yup! as I said, it's hard to become a majority when you can't procreate.

[ilw]

If you assume its genetic, then full acceptance of gays would probably eventually lead to there being fewer gays because there would be fewer marrying the opposite sex and having children in an effort to lead a 'normal' life.