Is Eminem A Poet

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+20 September 2003 - 20:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 20 September 2003 - 20:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lamsey@20 September 2003 - 20:35
As far as I&#39;m concerned, music has to use melodies, rhythms, harmonies, etc. to supplement or complement the lyrics and emotions in the song.

you expect ryhthms? what are drums then?
melodies? have you litened to rap/hip hop lately?
harmonies? listen to 2pac - dear mama [/b][/quote]
I expect something a little better rhythmically from a drummer than a basic dragged 8-beat, which is almost uniform for rap.

Melodies... most raps I&#39;ve heard have two notes; eminem&#39;s recent songs are no exception, the one that&#39;s the main rap for 8-mile is an example.

Hip-hop doesn&#39;t come into the equation because I wasn&#39;t talking about it.

And harmonies? How can you have a harmony if the guys aren&#39;t singing? Granted, there may be some raps with musical choruses with harmonies, but I&#39;m talking about rapping in general here.

[J'Pol]

By your logic Lamsey, are all rappers called Ian.

Musician without the music.

[mrcall1969]

Not to mention all the samples and riffs etc used from other songs.

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Lamsey@20 September 2003 - 20:59
the main rap for 8-mile is an example.

by "the main one" i&#39;m assuming you mean the freestyle from 8 mile?

seems to me like you&#39;re displaying your ignorance on the topic...

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by mrcall1969@20 September 2003 - 21:04
Not to mention all the samples and riffs etc used from other songs.

absolutely bollocks

prove it

@JPaul

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+20 September 2003 - 21:05--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 20 September 2003 - 21:05)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lamsey@20 September 2003 - 20:59
the main rap for 8-mile is an example.

by "the main one" i&#39;m assuming you mean the freestyle from 8 mile?

seems to me like you&#39;re displaying your ignorance on the topic... [/b][/quote]
I mean the one which is never off the bloody radio and is in the trailers for the movie - not a bad assumption to make.


And if all you can pick on is a technicality like that, you must be grasping at straws.

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Lamsey@20 September 2003 - 21:08
And if all you can pick on is a technicality like that, you must be grasping at straws.

nope
i just don&#39;t think someone in your posititon should make blanket statements that normal members are chastised for...

"us and them"

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+20 September 2003 - 21:10--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 20 September 2003 - 21:10)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lamsey@20 September 2003 - 21:08
And if all you can pick on is a technicality like that, you must be grasping at straws.

nope
i just don&#39;t think someone in your posititon should make blanket statements that normal members are chastised for...

"us and them"

[/b][/quote]
Forgive me for not enclosing the small technicalities of your argument in my description of my opinion of rap in general.


Oh wait, I did.



And did I give you permission to link to that image?

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by Lamsey+20 September 2003 - 21:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lamsey @ 20 September 2003 - 21:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@20 September 2003 - 21:10
<!--QuoteBegin-Lamsey

@20 September 2003 - 21:08
And if all you can pick on is a technicality like that, you must be grasping at straws.

nope
i just don&#39;t think someone in your posititon should make blanket statements that normal members are chastised for...

"us and them"

Forgive me for not enclosing the small technicalities of your argument in my description of my opinion of rap in general.


Oh wait, I did.



And did I give you permission to link to that image?

[/b][/quote]
i love it when an argument gets to this level

[Lamsey]