"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
You keep dancing around the issue while trying to score political points.
Ignore the use/misuse of statistics and address the fact that by any accounting, we are supplying a shitton of weapons to Mexican cartels.
Or do you have an ideological compulsion to ignore the problem whilst sniping at Obama?
"I am the one who knocks."- Heisenberg
Sniping at Obama?
Well, though the media reported the administration's statement(s), I'll say mentioning
the facts is merely in aid of noting that the administration is, or certainly seems to be, the sole source propagating that particular tidbit.
Kind of you to mention my mentioning it, btw.
Please to indicate anywhere I have derided/ignored any attempt to deal decisively with any illicit distribution of arms born of what you would no doubt refer to as "typical republican greed".
Might I also point out that it is precisely the attitude of, Ignore the use/misuse of statistics... that often brings our community of elected rapscallions to a fine focus, and further point out my observation that there are no angels on either side, and that you should concede the point without my resorting this absurd (yet strangely compelling) arm-twisting.
Last edited by j2k4; 04-11-2009 at 05:46 PM.
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
So that's it, eh?
Let me summarize the conservative solution to American arms flowing across our border..."We do nothing".
"We do nothing" because it's better to try to pin the blame on the democrats.
"We do nothing" because it's better to hide behind semantics and statistics and while doing so, maybe the problem will just go away.
"We do nothing" because hey!, it's not ALL our fault and even if we stop- the vaguely defined and imprecisely tallied American arms- somebody else will just step in and fill our shoes, so what's the point?
"We do nothing" because anything we do will probably infringe our precious Second Amendment rights or some how, some way inconvenience a major corporation.
But mostly we just do nothing.
Christ, no wonder you were so thoroughly repudiated at the polls this time around.
Doing nothing is all you're good for.
"I am the one who knocks."- Heisenberg
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
So what does a conservative do about this.
Or are there yet more straw men sitting on your bench?
"I am the one who knocks."- Heisenberg
Conservatives are thin on the ground in D.C.
We'll have to do the job with hard-hitting commentary.
What sort of super-effective steps are the dems (with their majority and all) contemplating?
I mean, hey - the dems can stop the republicans, why can't they stop the gun manufacturers?
Last edited by j2k4; 04-12-2009 at 12:15 PM.
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
Still dancing, Kev, still evading.
What- if anything- would you propose?
"I am the one who knocks."- Heisenberg
Well, I'm dancing with you, you see.
Let's see...I suppose I would track the production runs of the mfrs, and let them know if any of it shows up on the border (the limits of our purview, absent a competent and cooperative Mexican government) they will suffer some sort of horrible corporate fate.
Your turn, please.
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
Ban the sale/possession of military grade assault weapons.
Require extensive and mandatory background checks for all gun sales.
This includes the loopholes for gun sales at shows.
These background checks would be Federal instead of state controlled to eliminate the possibility of crossing state lines to take advantage of looser restrictions in neighboring states.
Mandatory- and not subject to parole reduction- extra sentencing for using a gun during the commission of a crime.
Immediate ban on armor piercing ammunition.
Monitoring and restriction of distribution (with suitable accountability) of weapons at the manufacturing level.
Reregistration- with proof of possession- of privately owned guns on a short timetable...say every two years.
Too many "lost" guns seem to show up in the commission of crimes far removed from where they were supposed to be. Fines/penalties (up to and including incarceration) imposed on registered owner who cannot account for weapons registered to them.
Curtailment of concealed carry permits.
There, that's a start.
"I am the one who knocks."- Heisenberg
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