Elektronik has BANNED Egypt

[technodrome]

i wish all trackers remove the ban from all countries.. But unfortunately it's not seem possible..

[pedrowsky]

Like Stoi and BCG

ScL won't be banning any IP Ranges.
Can't have an entire country defined by those bad apples.


pedrowsky :: ScL Staff Team

[pro267]

While I'm against banning countries in principle, I can understand why Elektronik felt they had to do what they did. I know other trackers have considered doing the same.

The problem with Egyptian members as I see it, is that trading, cheating and sharing accounts is such a widespread phenomena amongst them, that most Egyptians see it as the norm. All of these activities are done/encouraged every day in Egyptian forums (won't name any names, but every Egyptian member probably knows which forums I'm referring to), without any supervision/control, and this is finally coming back to bite them in their arses..

[jokerjoker12]

its bad news

[bilkenter]

While I'm against banning countries in principle, I can understand why Elektronik felt they had to do what they did. I know other trackers have considered doing the same.

The problem with Egyptian members as I see it, is that trading, cheating and sharing accounts is such a widespread phenomena amongst them, that most Egyptians see it as the norm. All of these activities are done/encouraged every day in Egyptian forums (won't name any names, but every Egyptian member probably knows which forums I'm referring to), without any supervision/control, and this is finally coming back to bite them in their arses..

Honestly The best torrenter friends of mine are Egyptians, and my experience with them suggests that they are no cheater, at least they pay for seedboxes, uploading staff to rapidshare, mostly good members on the sites they are in. If they werent, staff wouldnt allow them to transfer some of their upload to other users now would they? There might be some bad apples, i agree, but still i havent run into any cheater Egyptian. Check Ftn or any other high lvl trackers, and see how many Egyptians are there, Honestly If they were bad users who trade cheat and have a site which informs them about how to cheat on sites, then they wouldnt make it that far, at least not all the Egyptians i know of, All the Egyptians i know have ftn fsc or any other high lvl tracker, if those people were to be bad users, would they manage to stay there? wouldnt staff ban them from those places as well? You have a point that some might be bad apples, but just because there is a Turkish forum that kinda helps people cheat on ratios doesnt mean we know the site or we would use it. Some people actually have the spirit of sharing. I understand why Elektronik has to do what they would do, but they could simply help good Egyptian users. Just as it is suggested, they might offer help to good egyptian uisers via irc if users wanted to they might contact staff et cetera, yet it is their calls...

edit: Also you are right they share accounts sometimes, Something from my personal experience: A friend of mine called Mohammed shared a TT account with me, I of course denied it at first thinking that it might get the account disabled, yet he checked it with tt staff before he shared info, at least this is what he told me then i used the account, anyway the point is even if they do such things like sharing et cetera, they first check it with staff, at least the ones i run into, So tell me is this guy a bad user? He talks to staff before he acts, he confirms it then assures me that account wont get disabled, then i start using, seeding, buffering tha account. I dont think this qualifies as a bad user now does it? After all, it all depends on what is a good user or bad user really.

[ajsi]

Honestly The best torrenter friends of mine are Egyptians, and my experience with them suggests that they are no cheater, at least they pay for seedboxes, uploading staff to rapidshare, mostly good members on the sites they are in. If they werent, staff wouldnt allow them to transfer some of their upload to other users now would they? There might be some bad apples, i agree, but still i havent run into any cheater Egyptian. Check Ftn or any other high lvl trackers, and see how many Egyptians are there, Honestly If they were bad users who trade cheat and have a site which informs them about how to cheat on sites, then they wouldnt make it that far, at least not all the Egyptians i know of, All the Egyptians i know have ftn fsc or any other high lvl tracker, if those people were to be bad users, would they manage to stay there? wouldnt staff ban them from those places as well? You have a point that some might be bad apples, but just because there is a Turkish forum that kinda helps people cheat on ratios doesnt mean we know the site or we would use it. Some people actually have the spirit of sharing. I understand why Elektronik has to do what they would do, but they could simply help good Egyptian users. Just as it is suggested, they might offer help to good egyptian uisers via irc if users wanted to they might contact staff et cetera, yet it is their calls...

i also have a great friend from egypt, i couldn't agree more with you

[cinephilia]

of course there are good egyptians users, no one deny it...
but the fact is that most of them are cheaters/traders/sellers (on elektROnik at least) so there's no point in blaming staff decision.

[! TRADE !]

we never mind about banning from trackers

if we banned from 1 we have about 100000 other with the same cont


and 10 % only hear non arabic music from egypt

so all 90 % is happy

and other 10 % can find every thing in other trackers

trackers ae alot this day's not like old day's

every one can make tracker for few dollars

goooooooodbyeeeeeeeee

[cinephilia]

we never mind about banning from trackers

if we banned from 1 we have about 100000 other with the same cont


and 10 % only hear non arabic music from egypt

so all 90 % is happy

and other 10 % can find every thing in other trackers

trackers ae alot this day's not like old day's

every one can make tracker for few dollars

goooooooodbyeeeeeeeee

nice, all is well that ends well

[Artemis]

we never mind about banning from trackers

if we banned from 1 we have about 100000 other with the same cont


and 10 % only hear non arabic music from egypt

so all 90 % is happy

and other 10 % can find every thing in other trackers

trackers ae alot this day's not like old day's

every one can make tracker for few dollars

goooooooodbyeeeeeeeee

An absolutely perfect example of the attitude which brings about IP bans, and this was in some way supposed to help the argument? You have only reinforced it, and proven what others are saying.