why not switch to usenet?

[stoi]

EDIT: OK, just out of curiosity I went and looked at the amount of files posted in a couple of popular groups. I found that in just a.b.warez and a.b.cd.images.games there have been 9,347 postings just since April 1st, 2009 (23 days). Now consider that maybe 40% of those are par files and you're left with approximately 3,740 unique games posted in just 23 days. Going even further, consider that this was only 2 groups of the (at least) 30 groups dedicated to nothing but games and that Giganews offers 365+ days of retention. You still think that a single tracker can come anywhere even remotely close to that?

ok, now this is where you are confusing the members.

if there are 9347 postings, and 40% are par files, then you are looking at the files surely, not the games, so of those 3,740 files (multi rars) there will be a lot less games uploaded in there, some games will be 50-200 files.

I am not saying Newsgroups are bad, hell just see my post earlier, i am just trying to point out that files in a group are not the same as unique content.

I would definately say we have more game content than usenet, difference is the speed, with usenet you max your connection, on BCG you dont on every game.

I have no idea how many "files" are on BCG, but this is what we have in games.

PS2 2113 games
PC 2851 games
PSP 937 but 4 torrents have the first 400 psp games in.
Wii 1699
NDS all the games you can get.

and some have been on the tracker since we opened, 22/12/06 so our retention is extroardinary as well.

Scrap that last bit i editd out, having a new baby knackers you out lol

[yayyyyyy]

I prefer torrents becouse I hate leechers.

I want to exchange files only with other active ppl... that actively uploads something... I do not want to be part of a system where you have just to pay something and download whatever you want without contributing.

[puckface]

I just found this. Never even knew it existed before.

1984 postings.

You own the internet for the day sir.

[cinephilia]

OP is probably right but i doubt usenet could replace a tracker like Karagarga.
ok, i know usenet is full of classics and 'old films' but i don't think you can find as much rarities (experimental, independant productions, rare vhsrips) as on KG.

anyway, it's certainly the best alternative.

I just found this. Never even knew it existed before.

1984 postings.

nice but not comparable with the ~60.000 torrents uploaded until now at KG.

[tnt]

kg has 36 000 active torrents mainly 1-2 seeders i try to download a movie and my speed is 1KB

[KFlint]

I just found this. Never even knew it existed before.

1984 postings.

nice but not comparable with the ~60.000 torrents uploaded until now at KG.

Indeed, and it is not linked to KG website in any way. It's mentioned in their forum.

Some specialized trackers can't be replace by Usenet, KG is one of them.

I just don't see the need to use any 0-day tracker when you are using Usenet. I also get a lot of older releases with it much faster and with less effort.

[cinephilia]

kg has 36 000 active torrents mainly 1-2 seeders i try to download a movie and my speed is 1KB

who cares about speeds ? KG is not a 0day tracker and its goal is to create a comprehensive library of non-mainstream material.
check again and you'll see that most of the torrents have a bunch of seeders.
oh and for inactive torrents, reseeding works very well, trust me. every single torrents without seeder i've wanted grab in the past 100 weeks have been all reseeded within 3 days.

[redMonster]

I prefer torrents becouse I hate leechers.

I want to exchange files only with other active ppl... that actively uploads something... I do not want to be part of a system where you have just to pay something and download whatever you want without contributing.

And why do you care so much about this? You are in the p2p community for downloading files above everything else. That should be your importance. You have many other ways to contribute.

[Rilly]

To keep in line with the number of active torrents being posted.
On just One Usenet indexing site - 130,451 NZBs.. that are new in the last 110 days... (so.. for those that have over 200 days of retention.. double that number)

Files for nzb #1 and file for nzb # 130451 will all have the exact same speed - which is typically maximum your ISP can offer.

the only knock i have against usenet - is that there is no file quality controls - you don't see crappy or fake stuff on good private trackers

[Detale]

Again, I don't pay for bittorrent, and I can also upload stuff as well, share a few files with mates.

Fair enough you dont pay, but you can upload to usenet also you know.

ever since ive changed to another isp who offers 2 usenet servers with a +200day retention for free ive been using it more and more!

also when i started downloading all my tv shows in 720p i just set up an rss feed in SABnzbd instead of seeding it all back at 40kb/s on torrenttrackers...

now 95% off what i download is from usenet.

What ISP is this?? In the USA they removed many of the free servers that cable service provided to "combat child porn" yeah SUUUUUUUURE

I don't know why I came here to convert you folks. Ignorance seeps through the threads in this subsection of the forum and I'm done trying to deal with it.

I hope that a handful of you make the switch to Usenet after reading this, or at least give it a fair shot.

Good luck, bittorrent community.

Welcome to the BT section man. Don't go getting all pissy dude thats just how they are.


@Skizo-GREAT find there man, THANKS!