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    mossy123's Avatar {SouLfiRE} BT Rep: +16BT Rep +16BT Rep +16BT Rep +16
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    and what do you think? that after everyone joins usenet they wont pull the plug on newsgroups?? They were already about to pull the plug a few times in the past. Personally I think the less people on it the better. Love the old days when the wares came from the WHQ of the release groups site and few elite users had access. All this open piracy has ruined it all and the industry.

  2. BitTorrent   -   #92
    For me bt is much easier to use, its also free.

  3. BitTorrent   -   #93
    why should i use usenet, i got an rss list on my tv tracker and i turn utorrent on it checks the rss and downloads automaticly and almost everytime with full speed so why the fuck should i use usenet?
    it wont get anymore comfortable or faster... i am using utorrent for a year before that i used ed2k, ftp, rapidhsare etc.. but this is the most comfortable way of downloading for me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by OMiKRON View Post
    it wont get anymore comfortable or faster...
    Actually it might just be faster for you unless your connection is already maxed out when you download torrents.

  5. BitTorrent   -   #95
    Quote Originally Posted by Stellar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OMiKRON View Post
    it wont get anymore comfortable or faster...
    Actually it might just be faster for you unless your connection is already maxed out when you download torrents.

    You think he's sitting on home 100mbit line?

  6. BitTorrent   -   #96
    Maxing out a 50Mbps (and more) line (home, seedbox, whatever) is no problem whatsoever on some of the faster trackers. Speed really can't be an argument IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KFlint View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cinephilia View Post
    nice but not comparable with the ~60.000 torrents uploaded until now at KG.
    Indeed, and it is not linked to KG website in any way. It's mentioned in their forum.

    Some specialized trackers can't be replace by Usenet, KG is one of them.

    I just don't see the need to use any 0-day tracker when you are using Usenet. I also get a lot of older releases with it much faster and with less effort.
    It was in no way an attempt to suggest that that group can/will/could replace the entire tracker. I was just surprised to find it, and with so many movies.

    On the other hand, I never saw the attraction of KG. I've had accounts there twice and don't think I ever downloaded a single flick.

    Quote Originally Posted by mossy123 View Post
    and what do you think? that after everyone joins usenet they wont pull the plug on newsgroups?? They were already about to pull the plug a few times in the past. Personally I think the less people on it the better. Love the old days when the wares came from the WHQ of the release groups site and few elite users had access. All this open piracy has ruined it all and the industry.
    You can't "pull the plug" on newsgroups. Not in the literal sense or the proverbial.

    So long as two servers or computers are sharing files, Usenet will always exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by stoi View Post
    EDIT: OK, just out of curiosity I went and looked at the amount of files posted in a couple of popular groups. I found that in just a.b.warez and a.b.cd.images.games there have been 9,347 postings just since April 1st, 2009 (23 days). Now consider that maybe 40% of those are par files and you're left with approximately 3,740 unique games posted in just 23 days. Going even further, consider that this was only 2 groups of the (at least) 30 groups dedicated to nothing but games and that Giganews offers 365+ days of retention. You still think that a single tracker can come anywhere even remotely close to that?
    ok, now this is where you are confusing the members.

    if there are 9347 postings, and 40% are par files, then you are looking at the files surely, not the games, so of those 3,740 files (multi rars) there will be a lot less games uploaded in there, some games will be 50-200 files.

    I am not saying Newsgroups are bad, hell just see my post earlier, i am just trying to point out that files in a group are not the same as unique content.

    I would definately say we have more game content than usenet, difference is the speed, with usenet you max your connection, on BCG you dont on every game.

    I have no idea how many "files" are on BCG, but this is what we have in games.

    PS2 2113 games
    PC 2851 games
    PSP 937 but 4 torrents have the first 400 psp games in.
    Wii 1699
    NDS all the games you can get.

    and some have been on the tracker since we opened, 22/12/06 so our retention is extroardinary as well.
    That's what the 40% is for. Many don't have pars or they are incoporated into the NZB, like so - http://binsearch.info/browse.php?bg=...games&server=0
    Last edited by Skizo; 04-24-2009 at 09:40 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost


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    probably cause you're not sensitive to cinema as an art.
    most people watch film for entertainment, nothing more.
    whenever people agree with me, i always feel i must be wrong.

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    and most of what you showed me in that link was garbage.

    Dutch/German/Dupes

    yes newsbin is good, but so is bittorrent, i am not totally dismissing torrents.

    I very rarely download TV, but i just fancied West Wing and OZ the complete seasons, looked on usenet, no where to be seen, had to get them from TPB, yes they took 4 weeks to download, but at least i got them. that was when i wished i had a tv tracker lol

    I know usenet, i have been using it for 5 years, you dont need to link me to anything, i know how to search, and i have astraweb, so i know how many games there are, and there is not as many as BCG.

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    I subscribe to a small percentage of fairly well populated newsgroups - picking the large ones tends to make header downloads take hours - and I like to browse them for interesting stuff. I imagine many people browse torrent sites in the same way.

    You can see from the attached screenie that there have been thousands of items posted since I last updated headers yesterday. These are not individual posts since NBP condenses the list so complete rar sets are counted as one article.
    Sporge and discussion/request posts are filtered out, as are articles older than one day.

    Newsgroups is always my first port of call when I'm after something in particular and if I can't find it there, I'll check torrent sites. If I still draw a blank I'll post a request to the relevant group and sit back and wait - only a couple of times have I failed to get what I wanted in the last 10 years.

    BT and newsgroups are two different beasts entirely.
    I prefer newsgroups because I'm not under pressure to seed back, downloads are at max connection speed and it's hella cheaper than the seedbox I'd need to keep up my ratio.

    Yes, there are torrent sites with specialised content that's difficult to find elsewhere (especially user-upped stuff) but I'm not usually after that kind of thing so it doesn't bother me... and requests are usually filled within days on newsgroups, anyway.

    The driving force behind most torrent sites (and tracker-chasers) is usually rarity or pre-times.
    I'm not interested in either; I grew out of that sort of competitiveness before puberty.
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