why not switch to usenet?

[Something Else]

I am going to try both,why switch one for another.I have IPT for bittorrent and have just signed up to Astreweb.Now all i need is a Newzbin invite and i have the best of both worlds.Will have to see though if usenet users are as kind as people here, who trusted me with invites

You don't need a newzbin invite. It's not worth it.

[tywyn]

That's a matter of opinion I'm afraid.

[rippinitup4fun]

I tried using usenet, and it SUCKS. I havent even used my all download quota. Maybe i am noob, yet i didnt like it at all.Better use rapidshare, at least you have a way of checking whether the games actually work or not. Beside BT, Rapidshare is the best.

It doesn't "suck"; you may be too dim to comprehend the basic concepts, but it most certainly does not suck. It isn't like Bittorrent where you can learn everything you need to know in an hour and you're off and running. It does take some work and it does take longer to learn and experience everything there is to know, but it's well worth it.

Usenet was around way before private BT trackers. It predates them by some twenty years and releases of apps, TV programs, and the latest films traditionally go to Usenet first. It's always been that way. Usenet and its numerous groups, has many, many more uploaders than any private torrent site.

Now I'm not saying that some BT trackers don't have uploaders that cap TV shows or crack programs and release them exclusively to the site but Usenet is the place for getting releases first. You have to know the right groups, of course, but once you've got your favorite groups entrenched in your newsreader of choice, you'll find everything you need and will be able to download it sooner and faster than if you relied on your private tracker.

Using Giganews and Alt.Binz I have 365+ days of content to download* at max speeds which downloads, fixes, and extracts itself.

* As an example, Newzbin can provide me with approximately 120,000 posts of content** whilst the average on my private trackers is maybe 10,000. Usenet search engines reveal literally hundreds of thousands of files available.

** That's new and old content. At max speed. All the time. With no need to upload.

There really is no comparison.

The existence of so many users shilling out much more cash than a news server would cost, for seedboxes is just plain foolish and a waste of money. I'll never understand it.

Well said.

[wevotedno]

Average retention of a newservice is now at 200 days. The only thing that makes torrent societies more attractive are the the societies and their activity. Other than that the usenet is far more interesting.

[stoi]

BCG has a retention of 3 years, other sites 5 years. basically as long as we have ben open.

Anyway the way i see it is.

The reason most people are in private trackers, is because they like the notion of sharing, and that everyone else has to share, or they get kicked out.

Usenet is pay and download, no sharing involved.

If you want to preach Usenet to a bittorrent community, you would be much better off doing it on TPB/Minninova etc as most on there, do the same as usenet.

Download and dont upload jack squat.

On a private tracker, you have to share, now depending if thats a good/bad thing, depends on the type of user you are.

but to me, that is the only advantage of usenet over private trackers, you can leech like crazy, as long as you pay the bill at the start of the month.

[Raban]

i've been on usenet probably longer than some of the people on this forum have been alive... it is good and has its uses but also a lot of drawbacks...

first off there is no community ... there are also no comments on the various uploads like you have on torrent sites. for 0-day torrent sites you can see exactly what's new by looking at the first page. on a usenet group who knows if its new it could be a re-post

BUT to me the biggest problem that has evolved with usenet in recent years is the number of viruses and spyware disguised as fake uploads. if i want a small 0-day app there is no fucking way in hell i would download it off usenet. you'd have to be out of your mind. there's an EXTREMELY good chance its been tampered with.

usenet wasn't always like that but unfortunately as more and more people become familiar with it so do the spyware/junk emailers and people looking to get their trojans on your computer

[pieeyed]

I've been planning on getting back on Usenet for a while. My problem with it is that I download way too much stuff that I don't need. As far as apps go, I only get them from private torrent sites but I've never had a problem with movies. One thing I don't like about Usenet is that its hard to find stuff by re-encoders such as STG, and Lynks. To me one is not better than the other and both have their uses.

Does anybody here have a Newzbin invite they can spare? I used it when it was public and loved it. For references I can provide proofs on several trackers with multiple terabytes uploaded. I did post in the Newzbin invite thread in the Usenet section but never got a reply and I figured that there were probably several Newzbin users participating in this thread.

Thanks,

Pieeyed

[Zod5000]

I use usenet and torrents. For my daily tv show fix or movies. Sometimes they'res something I can't find on usenet. I use HDbits and there's alot on that site that I can't get off usenet. So I suppose i use private torrent sites to enhance my usenet experience

[Skiz]

That's a matter of opinion I'm afraid.

Great point.

Well represented.

Newzbin is a pay service which offers NZBs consisting of the exact same content freely offered and available via other sites and services. Even the minute cost is not worth it.

It doesn't "suck"; you may be too dim to comprehend the basic concepts, but it most certainly does not suck. It isn't like Bittorrent where you can learn everything you need to know in an hour and you're off and running. It does take some work and it does take longer to learn and experience everything there is to know, but it's well worth it.

Usenet was around way before private BT trackers. It predates them by some twenty years and releases of apps, TV programs, and the latest films traditionally go to Usenet first. It's always been that way. Usenet and its numerous groups, has many, many more uploaders than any private torrent site.

Now I'm not saying that some BT trackers don't have uploaders that cap TV shows or crack programs and release them exclusively to the site but Usenet is the place for getting releases first. You have to know the right groups, of course, but once you've got your favorite groups entrenched in your newsreader of choice, you'll find everything you need and will be able to download it sooner and faster than if you relied on your private tracker.

Using Giganews and Alt.Binz I have 365+ days of content to download* at max speeds which downloads, fixes, and extracts itself.

* As an example, Newzbin can provide me with approximately 120,000 posts of content** whilst the average on my private trackers is maybe 10,000. Usenet search engines reveal literally hundreds of thousands of files available.

** That's new and old content. At max speed. All the time. With no need to upload.

There really is no comparison.

The existence of so many users shilling out much more cash than a news server would cost, for seedboxes is just plain foolish and a waste of money. I'll never understand it.

Well said.

Thanks.

Just to add to that bit of pwnage: I also utilize RSS feeds for my favorite TV shows. Alt.Binz finds my TV shows almost immediately after they are uploaded to Usenet. It then proceeds to download them, fix any errors, extract the content from the .rar, and it does it all automatically. When I get home from work, all I need to do is open a folder and press 'Play'.

If there is ever something rare I'm looking for which isn't available, I simply add it to the search parameters. If ever that movie/album/song/whatever is uploaded to Usenet, it will find it and download it automatically.

BUT to me the biggest problem that has evolved with usenet in recent years is the number of viruses and spyware disguised as fake uploads. if i want a small 0-day app there is no fucking way in hell i would download it off usenet. you'd have to be out of your mind. there's an EXTREMELY good chance its been tampered with.

usenet wasn't always like that but unfortunately as more and more people become familiar with it so do the spyware/junk emailers and people looking to get their trojans on your computer

I never have a problem.

1. Don't grab exe's
2. Don't grab an app that has been uploaded the same time as 100 other apps.
3. Grab apps from groups you know.

[Snarkyone]

I can't believe that this thread is still going on after 25 pages....ridiculous! Each form has it's pro's and con's, all you people are doing is regurgitating shit that was said a month ago a dozen times already! Who really gives a shit who uses what to get their bounty? You people sound like a bunch of petty little children talking shit about who's dad can beat up who's dad.