So turnes out BT Music is all about money.

[0control]

If you cant afford a fast connection i have a simple solution....use public trackers that dont care about ratio! And what about uploading your own music? Why dont small pipers become uploaders, i see a lot of complainers about ratio are not uploaders.

If you can't afford a fast connection, how can you afford CDs? Public trackers does not ensure quality, something which P's does.

[shipwreck]

You are not seriously comparing monthly fees, which can be considerable, depending on the country you live in, to piss cheap CD recordables (or DVD recordables even), which many people don't even use anymore due to hard disk space being so cheap these days.

[0control]

Well, in my country it is the other way around; a decent broadband connection can be bought for the same price as three CDs. Don't come and tell me that the uploader have to buy one CD per download he makes, how cheap do you think that'll be in the long run?

Anyhow, this is very offtopic so I suggest we turn the discussion to be regarding P's again.

[shipwreck]

What? You seem to have missed the point. Many users don't even buy any recordable media anymore, so those costs don't even exist for them. Big hard drives are cheap, they download the stuff they need, store it, and if they don't like it anymore, simply delete it. Or buy additional storage.

But those costs are nowhere near the monthly fees they have to pay for broadband. And, as you may have to understand also, Scandinavia is an exception in this respect, the vast majority of users, particularly in less developed countries, have to pay considerably more than you pay. Maybe you need to broaden your horizon a little.

[aturdido]

The most part of the world has incredible problems to access a decent Internet account, not to talk about ADSL or Cable.

[JoeBlow]

If you cant afford a fast connection i have a simple solution....use public trackers that dont care about ratio! And what about uploading your own music? Why dont small pipers become uploaders, i see a lot of complainers about ratio are not uploaders.

If you can't afford a fast connection, how can you afford CDs? Public trackers does not ensure quality, something which P's does.

You can get endless CDs for free at the library, end of story.

[Paracetamol]

You can get endless CDs for free at the library, end of story.

Not all libraries have the funding available to have CD collections. Some of them focus on *gasp* BOOKS!

Your sweeping generalizations suck shit, by the way

[ezra]

While I don't think the overseeding issue is as bad as it's being portrayed, I don't agree with the way Rollo and FlacMonkey were treated. I don't really know all the others that were banned/demoted. Anyway, if you guys are going to a different tracker now, I'd like to follow. If someone could PM me to let me know, I'd appreciate it.

[cinephilia]

While I don't think the overseeding issue is as bad as it's being portrayed, I don't agree with the way Rollo and FlacMonkey were treated. I don't really know all the others that were banned/demoted. Anyway, if you guys are going to a different tracker now, I'd like to follow. If someone could PM me to let me know, I'd appreciate it.

i guess they'll stick with E* - not sure you can follow them there

[ximmix]

I missed all the excitement at BTM and I am sorry to hear of the banning once again. This is an old problem about having an open forum and will not go away. I have yet to find a site where censorship does not exist and find it as annoying as idiot posts. Anyway, I wish the old members well in their quest. Back on topic, its only partly about the money, if I didn't make it obvious that to me open discourse is the greater issue.