Ontologically speaking, how can GOD be proven

[sez]

Practices like Buddhism make one look in themselves, not to any fake being. Don't pray for yourself, or anyone else. Instead, do something to make things how you want them: Take initiative.

Could you please allow me to call you an idiot?
How do you know you possess the DNA double helix given that you've never seen yours?
How sure are you that darwin wrote the origin of species if you aren't the one who supplied him with ink?
How sure are you that you were born by a human being and not through pollination of a he and a she avocado?
How sure are you that live tv is live?

[j2k4]

Practices like Buddhism make one look in themselves, not to any fake being. Don't pray for yourself, or anyone else. Instead, do something to make things how you want them: Take initiative.

Could you please allow me to call you an idiot?
How do you know you possess the DNA double helix given that you've never seen yours?
How sure are you that darwin wrote the origin of species if you aren't the one who supplied him with ink?
How sure are you ♦that you were born by a human being and not through pollination of a he and a she avocado?
How sure are you that live tv is live?

Wow.

Deep, man.

Makes me question my faith or something.

[MaxOverlord]

Could you please allow me to call you an idiot?
How do you know you possess the DNA double helix given that you've never seen yours?
How sure are you that darwin wrote the origin of species if you aren't the one who supplied him with ink?
How sure are you ♦that you were born by a human being and not through pollination of a he and a she avocado?
How sure are you that live tv is live?

Wow.

Deep, man.

Makes me question my faith or something.

I was gonna respond but I'm not even sure if I'm typing this..

[bigboab]

Could you please allow me to call you an idiot?

Sticks and stones etc. (I know you did not mean me but the phrase applies)

How do you know you possess the DNA double helix given that you've never seen yours?

I don't, but I assume as I am like most other people who have proven the existence of DNA that I will be the same.

How sure are you that darwin wrote the origin of species if you aren't the one who supplied him with ink?

Same applies to parts of the Bible, Koran etc. How do you know that that those things happened, when you did not see them happen.

How sure are you that you were born by a human being and not through pollination of a he and a she avocado?

I am definitely sure about this one; I have a dark green colour in the morning. I am pear shaped. I have rough skin and creamy flesh and I came from a family tree.

How sure are you that live tv is live?

We never see anything live. Because of the time lapse, due to the speed of light, something could be dead by the time I see it. If the wee Martian jumps up and down you won't see the event till 22 minutes later. Assuming you are looking.

See what you have done. Now I have caught what you have. Go see a shrink or do you want me to make an appoiontment when I make one?


Kev@ Irony from an American?

[sez]

^^Now why do i smell faith wrapped in phailed sarcasm?
And i was merely responding to recursacro who apparently thinks faith is stupid.Something that in one way or another is in all of us.kapish?

[bigboab]

^^Now why do i smell faith wrapped in phailed sarcasm?
And i was merely responding to recursacro who apparently thinks faith is stupid.Something that in one way or another is in all of us.kapish?

If you could tell me what phailed sarcasm means then maybe I could reply to your allegations.

[Ronnie Coleman]

The very nature of faith is the concept that proof is not required.

Ask yourself this, what is the point of a God whose existence is proven?

Before anyone wrote anything more here... Read that quoted statement again.

It is matter of believing, not knowing.

[bigboab]

The very nature of faith is the concept that proof is not required.

Ask yourself this, what is the point of a God whose existence is proven?

Before anyone wrote anything more here... Read that quoted statement again.

It is matter of believing, not knowing.

That makes it worse. The fact that people can kill for a belief.

[Ronnie Coleman]

bigboab, people can kill for many reasons (grief, madness, money, sports...) but that is all different matter.

We are talking here, or at least we're trying, about God, religion, faith itself.

[Recursacro]

The very nature of faith is the concept that proof is not required.

Ask yourself this, what is the point of a God whose existence is proven?

Before anyone wrote anything more here... Read that quoted statement again.

It is matter of believing, not knowing.

A real God, that has been proven, would instill fear in those about to sin, and would give real hope to those looking for it. Faith would not be needed. Then I would worship him.

@Sez for all of those questions:
I believe most of these because they are logical. I don't believe in some supreme being that created everything and was never created because it isn't logical.

Also, because I think that my mother (the lady that I think is my mother) conceived me has nothing to do with using a superior being as a crutch for the weak minded.

I don't go praying for someone else to make something happen for me. Especially when that thing would defeat all odds. (Winning the lottery, for instance)

With Faith, one becomes narrow-minded, and weak. Look at yourself. If someone sincerely told me that the woman I thought was my mother was not mine, I would take them into consideration. I obviously wouldn't believe them at first, but I would accept that it was a possibility. It's logical. I don't have some stubborn faith that locks me into a euphoric state of God-will-save-me.

Why not just wait until something has been proven to live your life by it? Why live your life on something that you're not completely sure is real? Sound like a group of people trying to control others...?