Ontologically speaking, how can GOD be proven

[bigboab]

Sez. Do you think you could do the honour of quoting(Including the poster) or naming the member you are referring to. I am confused, maybe an old age thingy. I honestly don't know who you are accusing of attacking you. If you don't do this the previous poster will assume you are referring to them and answer accordingly. Which in some cases confuses me even more.

[Recursacro]

bigboab,
I believe he's talking to me. I'm the asshole that disgusts him, not you.

clocker,
I'm glad to have someone on my side in this thread, but how can you just let them choose what they want? Doesn't the ignorance just make your toes curl? I mean, I believe in people making their own choices, but when someone actually seems educated and their still believing what they were taught in Sunday school?

To the quasi-intellect,this is not spelling bee i advise you to go back to school instead of blowing the horn on how uncultivated you are with your redundant grammar corrections.Those of us who went through conventional education will tell you that mollusc and mollusk is one and the same thing.So unless you have autism i'd suggest you go easy on these retarded posts.
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Its people like you who attend some liberal arts college and somehow think that they know it all coz they are a philosophy major.
I've seen alot assholes like you and to tell you the truth you really disgust me.
You can't keep to your own pagan ways that you just have to insult and make fun of those who are trying to live by what they believe in.

Sez,
This has apparently just turned into some grade school verbal fight. Really mature. As for the "redundant grammar corrections", let's just say I've autism so I may continue...

The majority of kids under the age of 13 think that Santa Claus is real. He must be then, eh? He leaves a footprint in the fireplace and eats the cookies we leave for him... Or wait? Did someone else put the footprint there, and someone else eat the cookie? See the correlation between this and religion? People want you to believe something, so they plant all of this fake evidence, and get you when you're young so you'll believe it.

Think of this:
If someone was raised until age 20 without any hint at God at all. No religious references or anything. Then, when they turned 20, they were told that there might be a creator, and that he made all of us. Now, Larry (this guy's arbitrarily chosen name) is a left-brained person, being dominantly logical. When he hears about God, he's not going to think it makes sense at all. It's just not logical. He wasn't raised with that faith, and he wasn't trained to be obedient to the all and powerful God. *scoff*

Take this into consideration now, if you will:

A child is raised in a city with his parents and siblings. They are drug addicts and alcoholics, and don't believe in God. Yet they want their kids to, so they send them to Sunday school. Do you think that when the kids learn something, and then go home to their fighting parents that they will retain the absence of God, or his omni-present grace?

Since it's going to be the former (you agree so far, eh?), that makes him one of the assholes that you are disgusted by, right? He is now against God, since he has been told how God helps, then has gone home to drunk parents that beat him. He's now bruised, and an asshole.

Now, as for the snowflake and DNA.... DNA follows a pattern, a guideline. When someone is created, (by their mother, not God) we have a clue what the DNA will look like. How is that different from a snowflake? Does not a snowflake follow a guideline, and then the rest of it's description is taken from where it was created. (talking about inheritance) DNA is just as random as a snowflake, hence everyone is not the same, but they are close (where they guidelines come in).

To answer your question about it making sense for someone to write the code: No.

The code evolved from something very simple to what it is now. And it changed from animal to animal depending on the location and potential of intelligence.

Lastly, I'm not going for philosophy; I'm attending a university as a Computer Science major, with a minor in Psychology.

[Snee]

This entire thread could be boiled down to two posts.
The first would posit the question "How do you prove the existence of god"?

I think you'll find that the first post in this thread says something else.

This thread is stupid and needs to die, though.

[clocker]

This entire thread could be boiled down to two posts.
The first would posit the question "How do you prove the existence of god"?

I think you'll find that the first post in this thread says something else.

This thread is stupid and needs to die, though.

prove or at least make a case that GOD can exists

[Snee]

Make a case that God can exist != How do you prove the existence of God.

[MaxOverlord]

How about who was the first person to be in contact with your mollusc(mollusk, Ive founde u cant right verrie good) ancestors and were there any witnesses when you changed from nothing to some chemical soup to fish and finally to the super complex being that you are today.Do you really believe that you are relatives with fish or the fish of today for that matter are the human beings of tomorrow?
Do you know how mathematically harmonious your DNA double helix is to just have been as a result of randomness?
Either you are blaming God for something that happened to you or you are just ignorant(regardless of the level of your education).Be an atheist fine! just don't be attacking other people's beliefs like that.
Numbers don't lie and you clearly are in the minority,the majority of the world believes in the existence of a higher power and am glad am on the winning side.
Just out of curiosity,whats your take on homosexuality?

To answer someone's question from the previous page as to how a Christian talks: Like a narrow-minded and ignorant moron. See the post above me, and all other posts from Sez.

Sez,
You did the same damn thing with my question. Why don't you just try to answer the questions we ask you? I asked who created God. You asked who created soil and dirt. That's not the point!

Here,
BigBoab asks a question, and you steer away from providing an answer. Do you not like to think that your mind-control group has flawed their story? Is there something in there that doesn't make sense? Oh, just revert to Faith, everything'll be just fine if we just let someone else run our lives. Hell, why not be Communist. We don't need to pick our jobs either.

Another point:
You bring up DNA quite often. Yup, ok, God's a great mathematician, and he worked out all of it. Praise the Lord! That's crap. We evolved. We are complex beings and some things have yet to be explained, but no one being created us and all of our world. Which, by the way, why would God create other solar systems if he only care about us? He just got bored? The DNA isn't a result of haphazard evolution, it's a result of our bodies making a code from a very primitive one, to a complex one that can support ourselves over time.

Moving on...
Do I believe the fish of today are the people of tomorrow? No...
We are the people of tomorrow, I'm sure. Well, as long as there is land to walk on. Fish wouldn't need to evolve because they still have food in the water. Why would they change to come on land if it's over populated with people like you?

Now, as for your second to last statement. Wow. Does that not seem like a group of people trying to take control of others? The winning side? Is this a war? Is it a game? So God favors your side to anyone else's, right? I was watching a movie the other day, and some vampire was going to die. He asked if God would let him in. (Godric, his name was, I think) She said God was forgiving, and would let anyone in.... What's the point in Hell then?

Oh, and Sez, the majority of people may be religious, but the majority of religious people don't know the square root of 144. Do you?

My views on homosexuality:
Anyone has the right to have the sexuality they prefer. As long as it abides by the laws of the state (not having sex with kids and such). I also support same-sex marriage 100%.

This is hilarious! You sound like a narrow-minded and ignorant moron with your very first response....bravo! Give me more,please.

[sez]

Am starting to think that the problem is with our education systems.I just wish people read beyond what they were offered by their curriculars.Darwin's theory of evolution is being hammered by ID that most have now reduced it to a theory explaining basic natural selection.

Check this out then share your thoughts Unlocking The Mystery Of Life: Introduction on Intelligent Design Theory |

[sez]

And from the comments its interesting to note how jittery these uneducated darwin loons can get.Near the end you actually hear that while this theory may have religious implications,it does not necessarily have religion as a premise.

[bigboab]

I think this debate would have been more succinct if various religions had not destroyed all the books/transcripts that disagreed with their dogma.
What possible reason could they have for doing that?

[j2k4]

I think this debate would have been more succinct if various religions had not destroyed all the books/transcripts that disagreed with their dogma.
What possible reason could they have for doing that?

See what you did there?