Report Expected To Confirm Failure To Find Wmd

[Calvarian2003]

Originally posted by Billy_Dean@4 October 2003 - 09:06

I'd like to know where you get your figures from as well. 500000+? Where on Earth did you get that? In any case, this still is well below the deaths known to have occurred under Saddam's regime, namely 1 million people.

He probably got them in the same way you got your 1 million!

Try a report by your beloved 'UN'.

[Billy_Dean]

Originally posted by Calvarian2003@4 October 2003 - 18:35
Try a report by your beloved 'UN'.

Again, read posts BEFORE you get it wrong.

[J'Pol]

Would the sanctions have been lifted if the regime which had attacked Kuwait had stood down.

Would that have saved his people. Or am I asssuming that he gave a flying feck about them. I'm sure he and his never went short of a meal. Or his secret police, or his rape squads.

[Billy_Dean]

Originally posted by JPaul@4 October 2003 - 20:32
Would the sanctions have been lifted if the regime which had attacked Kuwait had stood down.

Would that have saved his people. Or am I asssuming that he gave a flying feck about them. I'm sure he and his never went short of a meal. Or his secret police, or his rape squads.

Who do you feel is defending him JP?

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Billy_Dean+4 October 2003 - 13:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Billy_Dean @ 4 October 2003 - 13:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-JPaul@4 October 2003 - 20:32
Would the sanctions have been lifted if the regime which had attacked Kuwait had stood down.

Would that have saved his people. Or am I asssuming that he gave a flying feck about them. I&#39;m sure he and his never went short of a meal. Or his secret police, or his rape squads.

Who do you feel is defending him JP?


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I haven&#39;t seen anything which looks like someone is defending him, have you. I don&#39;t think my post suggested that anyone here was defending him, having re-read it I am not sure why you ask, but sorry if I caused any confusion. I would be appalled to think that someone would.

I was suggesting that the real reason for the sanctions remaining in place was his intransigence and obvious total disregard for the welfare of his people.

I was merely conjecturing that, had he stood down surely the sanctions would have been lifted and this could all have been sorted a decade ago.

I think that blaming the US and the UK for it is to ignore the reason the sanctions were put in place, an unprovoked attack on another country.

To blame the US and the UK for the sanctions not being lifted is to ignore the fact that the man who made this attack refused to stand down from his position, thus demonstrating how he truly felt about his subjects (I use the word advisedly).

[Billy_Dean]

Sorry JP, must have read it wrong.

JP, I haven&#39;t noticed anyone saying Sadam should not have been removed. My point is that if the UK and US had said in the first place that they were taking him out, the world as a whole would have backed them. As it is, most people did not believe the reasons for going in, nor the rhetoric about WMD. I have also blamed the UN, because they passed the resolution on sanctions, and now refuse to lift them. Urgent medical supplies are still being witheld, and it&#39;s still the WMD story that stops their import. The UN cannot disentangle itself now by claiming the invasion was not sanctioned by them, Sadam isn&#39;t there, lift the sanctions&#33;&#33;

[Calvarian2000]

Originally posted by Billy_Dean+4 October 2003 - 10:03--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Billy_Dean @ 4 October 2003 - 10:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Calvarian2003@4 October 2003 - 18:35
Try a report by your beloved &#39;UN&#39;.

Again, read posts BEFORE you get it wrong.





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LOL Thank you so much Billy Dean. I know it&#39;s childish to pull pranks but I just couldn&#39;t resist in your case. I only joined this board to annoy you. I was quite amused the other day when you made the remark, &#39;let&#39;s see how much support you get.&#39; Do you think I give the slightest toss about what a bunch of bigoted atheists think?

I haven&#39;t the time to waste proving wrong your idiotic, childish arguments. Judging by the amount of time you spend on this board, I&#39;d say you&#39;re unemployed. Or at least in some crappy dead end job like selling jars of pickled onions on the side of dirt road. Here&#39;s a newsflash: Maybe if you weren&#39;t on welfare I might care what you thought.

I feel sorry for your parents to have had a bigoted oaf of a son like you. Or maybe you&#39;re an orphan? Yes, an orphan. Who in their right mind would want you as their son? No one could love a barracuda&#33;

Your support for the extreme left is truly touching. You are a fool and I am ashamed that you are an Australian resident. It&#39;s bleeding heart socialists and liberal do-gooders like you that will run this country into the ground. I only wish I could see the look of regret on your face when you realise what you an ignorant fool you&#39;ve been. God save us all if you ever get into politics. Hopefully you&#39;ll just make a money grab like the rest of them and won&#39;t legalise homosexual marriages, ban gun ownership, and continue your present tradition of kissing the UN&#39;s ass. Which reminds me, come out of the closet yet, Billy Dean?

This country, nay, the world would be a much better place if we just started executing every murderer, rapist, torturer, terrorist, liberal, and DO GOODER around. As Stan the Man says, &#39;Just get the SCUM OFF THE EARTH&#33;&#39;

Furthermore, I despise you&#39;re holier-than-thou attitude. Who cares what you have to say about things? Why should your opinion be so important? Nothing else about you is. It is out of my sheer generosity that I even read what you have to say.You are a complete fool who deserves all the forum-bashing he can get. You are a racist, fascist, antagonistic bigot. Go take a long walk off a short pier, and when you go to hell, tell &#39;em Calvarian sent you&#33;

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by Billy_Dean@4 October 2003 - 13:36
Sorry JP, must have read it wrong.

JP, I haven&#39;t noticed anyone saying Sadam should not have been removed. My point is that if the UK and US had said in the first place that they were taking him out, the world as a whole would have backed them. As it is, most people did not believe the reasons for going in, nor the rhetoric about WMD. I have also blamed the UN, because they passed the resolution on sanctions, and now refuse to lift them. Urgent medical supplies are still being witheld, and it&#39;s still the WMD story that stops their import. The UN cannot disentangle itself now by claiming the invasion was not sanctioned by them, Sadam isn&#39;t there, lift the sanctions&#33;&#33;

Again I think we are at crossed wires.

My post was in relation to when the sanctions were put in place after Saddam was removed from Kuwait.

Had he stood down all of this could have been avoided, in particular the suffering of the people of Iraq.

My point is simple. He brought the sanctions on them and he kept them in place. See my earlier post.

[Billy_Dean]

@ Calvarian ....Haha&#33;&#33;

LOL Thank you so much Billy Dean. I know it&#39;s childish to pull pranks but I just couldn&#39;t resist in your case. I only joined this board to annoy you.

You think this was a secret? You haven&#39;t had an opinion of your own since you started posting. It has always been obvious what your agenda was.

But thank you for coming, your idiocy was truly humourous. Now, back to school with you&#33;

[j2k4]

Originally posted by Billy_Dean@4 October 2003 - 07:36
I have also blamed the UN, because they passed the resolution on sanctions, and now refuse to lift them.

What entity or circumstance do you believe to be responsible for this fact, Billy?

Certainly not the U.S. or U.K.

I&#39;ll start by spotting you an "F".