Please Help Valve

[Monkeee]

gawd... hackers sux...

[Ferasso]

Listen diapow, i'm a programmer. My hobby is game programming. I know Delphi, C/C++ and assembler. If you think you will scare me posting this bullshit, i laught at you. For an asshole-end-user-player, you don't have nothing to do with the source, but people who understands it, it's a very good thing. By the way, sooner or later they would release the source. And i've just took a look in the source, and one folder catched my attention: maxsdk. Well, seems that we'll have some Half life 2 model viewers... at least ... maybe we could do something more... like hmmm... Let me go back to the source.

File:hl2-src(peerweb.org).rar
Length:32816098 Bytes, 32046KB
UUHash:=NyU6b41mHgeO54VGfIN9ZCDXFT0=

It have some bad-crc files, but works.
I'll take a deeper look tomorrow.

[Octopussy]

stfu pussy ass mother fucker dont talk shit to diapow bitch fuck you thinkin ur all cool cuz u know c++ wow fukin nerd

[Monkeee]

Originally posted by Octopussy@5 October 2003 - 07:12
c++ wow fukin nerd

good 1

[Octopussy]

Originally posted by Monkeee+5 October 2003 - 08:03--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Monkeee @ 5 October 2003 - 08:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Octopussy@5 October 2003 - 07:12
c++ wow fukin nerd

good 1 [/b][/quote]
yea i know damn i am good

first i get a free subway sub and now this damn this must be my lucky day

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by diapow@4 October 2003 - 16:40
What Im impying is that any compromise of data, whether its in binary, Hex, or another format is going to be examined, complied, and hacked. There are people out there that can and will do it, its just a matter of time. That is what I deal with everyday playing counterstrike, hackers trying to gain an advantage. The HL2 Source code is also used in?????.....Counter-strike Condition Zero...the next version of counter-strike. Now my problem is not with people having it for HL2, its with them having the new source for CZ and then being able to find new ways to cheat. Its really discourging for the industry and for all gamers, and if it has something to do with the myg0t clan believe it that they are in trouble.

If you didnt notice (Mr. Nobel Prize winner 5x) its being released by Valve and Vivendi Universal. Vivendi is a multi-national multi-billion dollar conglomerate company, they dont want to loose profits from the game being leaked and this will be a joint effort from Law Enforcement and Vivendi. Wait and see.

if you&#39;re so concerned with cheating in online games, maybe you should switch over to subscription-based games like everquest or planetside. they have administrators on duty 24/7 and they have a much greater ability to stop cheating from the server&#39;s end. or just play ANYTHING besides counter-strike and you&#39;ll immediately see a lot less cheating. counter-strike is hopeless.

the battle against cheaters is not going to be won by keeping the source code private, or prosecuting people who steal the source or decompile binaries. at best, cheating will be minimized by the publishers taking an active role in maintaining and policing centralized game servers.

if online gamers want to get rid of cheating, they need to quit being whiney cheapskates ("wtf, &#036;12 per month and i can&#39;t play a pirated copy of the game. my parrentz wont let me use thier credit card to subscrive this sux0rz&#33;&#33;1") and accept the fact that they need to pay subscription fees so the publishers can provide around-the-clock admin presence and server-side fixes when exploits are discovered. how many myg0t peeps actually bother trying to mess up games that they can&#39;t get for free?

AND MY POINT WAS THAT YOUR FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD WAS ASKING THE READERS OF K-LITE&#39;S GAMEWORLD TO REFRAIN FROM DOWNLOADING THE SOURCE CODE, WHILE PROLLY 99.999% OF THE PEOPLE WHO READ THIS FORUM WOULDN&#39;T EVEN KNOW HOW TO COMPILE SOURCE CODE... MUCH LESS HACK IT AND USE THE HAX TO SNATCH FOOD OFF OF VIVENDI&#39;S DINNER TABLE & CAUSE VALVE/VIVENDI TO DIE OF STARVATION. everyone is entitled to their righteous indignation, no matter how fuzzy and misguided, but you&#39;re being indignant toward the wrong people.

[Pitbul]

Originally posted by diapow@4 October 2003 - 23:31
THIS IS FROM THE HALF_LIFE2 WEBSITE


Well, we knew this was going to happen eventually, but many of the hosting providers are helping Valve with logs from various websites that had the HL2 Source leak files.

If you have downloaded these files over the internet by P2P, IRC, a Website, or even FTP, chances are that your IP and identity with your local service provider has been recorded. If you used a Proxy to hide your mask, that will not work as the various hosting providers will trace the route and eventually find out who you are.

A word of extreme caution - do not get involved with this matter by downloading the HL2 Source Engine files. If you have downloaded these files, DELETE THEM OFF YOUR COMPUTER.

Another word of caution&#33; If you downloaded these files you are at RISK by the hackers/crackers that stole these files&#33; These files can contain trojans, viruses, and other remote tools to easily invade your privacy and your security. Even if you have the latest and greatest Trojan/Virus scanning tools, they will NOT protect you from these newly released trojans and/or viruses.

Remember, hackers/crackers stole the property. Their goal is to destroy. Dont allow yourself open for them to distrupt your security like they did at Valve. DELETE THE HL2 FILES FROM YOUR COMPUTER and pretend you never had them&#33; Don&#39;t get involved in this matter by keeping the HL2 Source Engine files. This is a criminal act.

PLEASE NOTE: This is not an attempt to scare anyone. This is an attempt to educate and inform you to stay away from the sites that have hosted the HL2 Source Files. Delete the files if you have them. You will thank us later.


HL2-SCR is probably a virus so you might want to get rid of it, before it gets rid of your hard drive.

yoou damn moron put a bullet in your head or something are you stupid have you had a look in the source code folders? there are no viruses. the people who leaked it didn&#39;t have anything to do with the intial hacking of Valve it was only one person who leaked the file out of the group and he got kicked becuz of it. i suggest you wrap your lips around a 12 gauge before you tempted to post more bullsh*t lies from a site that is only trying to scare people from downloading it. half the people me included took one look at it and wanted nuthing more to do with it.people who downloaded it or want to are going to no matter what you say. so shut the hell up.

[Illuminati]

Even if the source code wasn&#39;t leaked, anyone who had the knowledge & intent to create serious hacking/cheating tools would have had got the game, broke the protection and find a readable version of the source code in a matter of hours.

Unless they&#39;re compiling the engine to test out their creations, the tools will like be faulty and not 100% compatible with the release version of HL2. Even with the code, the lack of the resources (as Cl1mh4224rd states) - You could (in theory) do some stuff with the code but what you could do is pretty limited unless you&#39;ve got the full monty of the game.

And in fact, it could be that having the source leaked before the game&#39;s release might actually be a good thing - The source is released, hacking tools are released as well (if not before the release, within 24 hours after it). Valve (or another company who make the anti-cheating systems) can find these tools (through contacts in the community who&#39;ve found them, finding them on popular sites etc), analyse them and work out where the vulnerabilities are that are being used.

If Valve are lucky, the first wave of these exploits can be sorted by the release, if lucky even the second wave, making it more fairer for everyone from the word go). Hell, I wouldn&#39;t be surprised if Valve released the source code for that reason itself and did a story to cover it up (That is a trick by a lot of software companies, though you don&#39;t hear it that often )

And Half Life&#39;s main-selling point was its brilliant single-player story months before the multiplayer mod wave came about. I wouldn&#39;t be surprised if it was the same for HL2

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Wtf? Do you people really think the HL2 engine is only 32MB? If you&#39;ve read Slashdot, more than a few people have posted that the entire package is in excess of 100MB...

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Originally posted by Ferasso@5 October 2003 - 07:53
And i&#39;ve just took a look in the source, and one folder catched my attention: maxsdk. Well, seems that we&#39;ll have some Half life 2 model viewers...

...or maybe a Software Development Kit for Max Payne?